Sachs 215mm Clutch Kit

[eastsidebimmer]

Are there any true differences between 215mm Sachs clutch kit PN KF13701 or KF13702?

01 is for the 74-76 2002

02 looks like it is slated for the E21 and E30 M10 variants

02 is ~$50 cheaper and based on an archive search, it looks like the later one will work fine, just looking for an extra opinion. Thanks!

[Harv]

The throw out bearing might be different.

John

[KFunk]

The throwout bearing should be right for a 5-speed conversion in a 2002 though, right?

Would there be any differences between the clutch/pressure plate on a 320i and a 2002 (i.e., is the flywheel different).

In the same boat myself... the E21 listing is way cheaper.

Yes, digging up old thread for same purpose, instead of making a new one.

[TobyB]

The flywheel is the same, as far as the clutch is concerned.

The later flywheels MAY SOMETIMES use a hardened and ground plate to

provide the clamping surface for the flywheel bolts, whereas the 2002

has a thicker flange with visible hardening around the bolt holes. You need

to be careful to keep that plate in there if you use one of the later

flywheels. But again, the clutch doesn't care....

The other thing that >>might<< be different are the straps that hold the

plate to the cover- the later style are radial, whereas the 228mm covers

have circumferential straps. It only seems to matter above 5k, but the

radial straps have come apart on me, while the circumferential never do.

You should be fine to use any kit that claims to be for an E21.

t

[TicoCafe]

I just bought the Sachs 215mm Clutch Kit Model: KF137-01 (KF13701).

 

My issue is that when I compare the new "clutch"  to the old one it is not as "tall" when compared to the old one - see picture.  The new "clutch" also has a different part # comparing to the old one.  The rest of the new parts matches the old parts (throwout bearing, Clutch cover) so no worries there.

 

Should i be worried that the new clutch is not tall than the old one?

 

Any insights is appreciated. Thanks

 

 

The clutch on the right side is the old one... as you can see the Center Splined Hub area is taller than the new one (left side)

 

 

New Clutch Part Number  1849 001 260

 

 

Old Clutch Part Number 1861 508 233

 

New Clutch (left) / Old Clutch (right)

Edited October 31, 2021 by TicoCafe
updated text

[Schnellvintage]

If you are referring to the center splined hub being "taller," I wouldn't worry about anything.  It will work just fine.

 

 

 

 

[TicoCafe]

14 minutes ago, Schnellvintage said:

If you are referring to the center splined hub being "taller," I wouldn't worry about anything.  It will work just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the reply. Correct. The center splined hub area is taller on the "old" clutch.  

[jimk]

The torsional spring damping system is different.  Some make the transmission sound like rocks in a tumbler.

[Gordon]

Recommend you acquire a 228mm flywheel from a 69-73 2002 and upgrade to a 228mm clutch.

[Son of Marty]

30 minutes ago, Gordon said:

Recommend you acquire a 228mm flywheel from a 69-73 2002 and upgrade to a 228mm clutch.

Why?

[TicoCafe]

Thanks for the responses.

Installing the clutch and I see this large gap as shown in the photo...

 

Is this gap normal?

 

I have not torque to bolts yet. Just finger tight right now. 

 

 

[kbmb02]

1 hour ago, TicoCafe said:

 

Installing the clutch and I see this large gap as shown in the photo...

Is this gap normal?

 

 

Normal, and necessary - I find typical range of that gap is 0.120 - 0.150”. -KB

[tech71]

Good job marking your timing marks, the black paint will make for good contrast.

I find that helpful.?

[Son of Marty]

Yes, that gap represents the spring pressure on the clutch when it's engaged.

[TicoCafe]

Thank you all for the input. Much appreciated.