why are car sellers such LIARS?

[UroTrash]

Take this car for instance.

"Leather interior" stated 3 places in the ad. Actually vinyl.

Spotless= torn vinyl seats, faded crappy carpet.

"the glossy white finish shines bright with a healthy shine of the clear. " what the hell does that even mean? The guy seems to be foreign so maybe it is a litttle translation problem.

I e-mailed the guy a time or two. Very defensive and nasty when I pointed out his misrepresentation. ( I asked him for the "after" pictures of the spotless leather interior...surely what was pictured was "before" the spotless leather restoration!)

Why do people feel they can do this to their fellow man?

why is there no integrety?

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[HarryPR]

Looks like it has a bit of a temperature problem too.

[KrautByTrade]

Looks like it has a bit of a temperature problem too.

and, that's probably after the car had been shut off...the temp gauge was probably pinned before that.

Par for the course considering it's a dealer.

[Psymon]

Looks like it has a bit of a temperature problem too.

and, that's probably after the car had been shut off...the temp gauge was probably pinned before that.

Par for the course considering it's a dealer.

It seems to be on since the rpm is around 900. At least it seems to have a crack free dash!! ;-)

[DonP]

... people want to sell their car for a good price, and can't take 10 minutes for the obvious.

Throw some paint on the license frame, or at least remove it!

[thehackmechanic]

Sometimes people honestly don't know.

Sometimes people know at some level but fool themselves.

But dealers outright lie.

Called about a '95 Corolla 5-speed wagon as a gas-sipping beater. Was being sold by a guy with a dealer's licence who flipped cars from his house. I asked about rust. I couldn't have been more specific. "Describe any rust to me, wherever it is, no matter how minor." "A few bubbles" was what I was told. THE ENTIRE RIGHT ROCKER PANEL WAS MISSING. I told this to a friend, and he said "so... the guy wasn't lying... if the rocker was missing, it wasn't rusty!"

[m-racer]

Sometimes people honestly don't know.

Sometimes people know at some level but fool themselves.

But dealers outright lie.

Sad, but true. I have been screwed a few times over the years, but only once by an actual member of the BMW vintage community. It's a relatively small community. For me, it would be difficult to buy a car (of the vintage variety) from someone who is not known and trusted.

[UroTrash]

Full disclosure: I'm the guy that started this thread.

I just bought a survivor 02 from only02 in vegas.

The car, while not EXACTLY as described was within 95% confidence interval, i.e., a reasonably accurately described car.

[EWN2002]

See the rust on the bottom driver's side of the front valace?

[tashakes]

The car looks clean enough, BUT not worth $10K.... the way it is maybe $6K to someone that wants a daily driver and not much work.

Another $500 spent on small details like a new carpet set, placing the spare in the right location, addressing the temperature issue, painting/removing the front plate holder, rear deck shelf recover, detailing the engine compartment (or at least cleaning the valve cover), aligning trunk gap would go a long way towards getting closer to an asking price.

It's the little details that sell a car like that. Plus, anyone with just a bit of common sense will know that a 35 year old car with a 5-digit odometer that shows 16,351 miles has 116,351 miles or 216,351 miles, not everybody out there is an idiot.....

[Harv]

I like the plastic to protect the crappy carpet.

John

[kiva667]

I wonder what that "extra part" is on the dash to the left of the instrument cluster...

[york]

Liars ? are you so right and , Icould write a Roundel Article on that subject alone

The La Jolla 02 ? advertised in L.A., SanDegio ect each ad Said" New Top

End engine, new radiator, all new front end, belts

NO RUST

I went out and saw that yes all that was true IN 1994 !!! and the rust was Only the two rockers, the hood, the trunk lid

Oil leaking from diff, oil leak Trans, and water pump seeping all old and dirty now comes the 2002faq'er who make fun of me for not paying $ 13,000 for it and then $ 35,000 to Korman or others

you , on the other hand seem to be more tuned to quality

thanks for your posts

[york]

Take this car for instance.

"Leather interior" stated 3 places in the ad. Actually vinyl.

Spotless= torn vinyl seats, faded crappy carpet.

"the glossy white finish shines bright with a healthy shine of the clear. " what the hell does that even mean? The guy seems to be foreign so maybe it is a litttle translation problem.

I e-mailed the guy a time or two. Very defensive and nasty when I pointed out his misrepresentation. ( I asked him for the "after" pictures of the spotless leather interior...surely what was pictured was "before" the spotless leather restoration!)

Why do people feel they can do this to their fellow man?

why is there no integrety?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-2002-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dLVIQ26ituQ3dUCIQ26otnQ3d4Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d63Q26clkidQ3d666091649116990681QQ_trksidZp5197Q2em7QQitemZ300563773014