history and reference How Many Tii's Are There

[pkchopp]

Does anybody know how many Tii's were imported each year to the U.S., and total number produced each of their years?

[adawil2002]

From the James Taylor & Mike Macartney book.

 

2002Tii LHD USA 

Model 71   276 0001 to 276 4521 - Aug '71 to Aug '73 -  total 4,521

Model 73   278 0001 to 278 2928 - Sept '73 to Dec '74 - total 2,928

 

2002Tii LHD

 

Model 71   270 0001 to 272 0114 - April '71 to Aug '73 -  total 20,114

Model 73   273 0001 to 273 7460 - Aug '73 to June '75 - total   7,640

Edited May 10, 2013 by adawil2002

[mac]

The importer, Max Hoffman, sold 5,612 Tii's to dealers in the US during model years 1972 to 1974.

I'll bet there are far fewer left than anyone thinks.

mac.

[Conserv]

I'll bet there are far fewer left than anyone thinks.mac.

I certainly agree with this: rust, wrecks -- I parted out a totaled '72 in '74 -- and mechanical issues -- for many years, a worn tii was worth $500, and no one was going to rebuild an injection pump -- have taken a huge toll.

So why does it feel like there are always a couple dozen tii's for sale, in the U.S. alone? Is there some general ratio between the surviving numbers of a model and the number of that model currently for sale? For example, are 5% of the survivors for sale at a given time?

Just curious as I'd like to know how many survive.

Steve

[OriginalOwner]

mine is 278 2426, June '74 ..... 

  Model 73   278 0001 to 278 2928 - Sept '73 to Dec '74 - total 2,928

 

 

Cheers,

 

Carl

Edited May 10, 2013 by OriginalOwner

[02Les]

Does anybody know how many Tii's were imported each year to the U.S., and total number produced each of their years?

According to info I have collected,

model '71

1971 = 422

1972 = 2797

1973 = 1302

model '73

1973 = 794

1974 = 2133

1975 = 1

 

Model '73 was made up to Dec '74, however, it appears one sneaked out in Jan '75.

[LJtii]

 As for the high survival rate, some of it has to relate to owners' desires to restore the Tii models more readily than the standard version, in spite of the cost, in anticipation of greater returns down the road - both seat of the pants and financially.

Edited May 11, 2013 by LJtii

[bnam]

mine is 278 2426, June '74 ..... 

  Model 73   278 0001 to 278 2928 - Sept '73 to Dec '74 - total 2,928

 

 

 

 

Are you sure on the date?  Mine is 278 2400 manufactured July 18th, and delivered to NYC on Aug 22nd.

Byas

[Conserv]

As for the high survival rate, some of it has to relate to owners' desires to restore the Tii models more readily than the standard version, in spite of the cost, in anticipation of greater returns down the road - both seat of the pants and financially.

I believe that the tii's have a higher survival rate than non-tii's, for the reasons you cite. But I don't know, and no one here has yet offered, the actual survival rate for non-tii's or tii's! How does it compare to other cars produced in the '66 to '76 era?

We have the tii (and non-tii) registry but we don't know how complete its numbers are.

Steve

Edited May 11, 2013 by Conserv

[OriginalOwner]

bnam,

 

  I made some "logical" assumptions, which is dangerous ..... there's a few pieces and parts stamped with 6-74 ......

 

  I'll take another look and see if I see anything that says 7-74 ......

 

Cheers,

 

Carl

[bnam]

Have you send a note to AndreasHarz? He can provide exact date.

Byas

Edited May 11, 2013 by bnam

[Conserv]

bnam,

I made some "logical" assumptions, which is dangerous ..... there's a few pieces and parts stamped with 6-74 ......

I'll take another look and see if I see anything that says 7-74 ......

Cheers,

Carl

It's so easy to get the facts from BMW Archives: send an e-mail to Andreas.Harz@partner.bmwgroup.com with your VIN and ask him for the car's history. You don't have to guess.

Steve

Edited May 12, 2013 by Conserv

[LJtii]

I believe that the tii's have a higher survival rate than non-tii's, for the reasons you cite. But I don't know, and no one here has yet offered, the actual survival rate for non-tii's or tii's! How does it compare to other cars produced in the '66 to '76 era?

We have the tii (and non-tii) registry but we don't know how complete its numbers are.

Steve

Trying to chart the survival rate for any group of cars is mind-numbing, partly because there will always be cars out there that we do not know about, which throws off the numbers. I have been doing a registry for a British-made sports car since the mid-70's and new cars pop up out of the blue at random, even though we have been searching for them for decades now. Aarrggh.

[OriginalOwner]

 so, you learn something every day ...... I found a sticker, with both VIN and MFG DATE, affixed to the driver's door ..... sheesh, I haven't noticed that sticker in decades.  (fyi, the sticker is that self-destructive, perforated stock, silver in color).

 

 MFG DATE  =  7/74

 

 And I just sent an email to Andreas Harz .... thanks much for that contact info !!

 

Cheers,

 

Carl

[dbmw2002]

The PC on the BMW dealers counter will tell you build date, model year and build info on our cars, not sure how much more detail than that but I got what I needed