history and reference Have an original Window Sticker to share? Here's my '72 Baikal tii

[TR]

Mine is a 73 tii. I guess the dealer handwrote wrote the color at the top.

[achman]

Don't have the window sticker unfortunately...but I have everything else...
including original warranty cards, import tax documents, first registration in USA, service record book with all stamps...even the Blaupunkt Frankfurt warranty card and manual.

 

Wish I had that window sticker!

[Dabliz02]

All under 10k.    Too bad that didnt change 

[Rxforfun2002]

BMW sticker price-I'll add mine...'76 2002a for $7,646.75. I recently purchased this from original owner for more than that. Using the Dept of Labor's Inflation calculator- this car would cost $31,814.78...only now I feel like I got a great deal!

 

 

[otisdog]

Both of the sunroof cars have "lower front seats". Was that standard?

[Conserv]

On 2/13/2015 at 10:45 PM, otisdog said:

Both of the sunroof cars have "lower front seats". Was that standard?

 

In '76, "Lower Front Seats" were a $12 option that came on an increasing number of sunroof cars. The seat cushion was simply an inch or so lower than the standard cushion. The '75-'76 seats had a taller seat cushion than the earlier seats (BMW was simply putting their newly-designed e21 seats into the 02's, albeit with a slightly different upholstery pattern). I comfortably fit in my sunroof '70, but I could not fit in a sunroof '75 or '76 even with the Lower Front Seats. I should note that I'm 6'3" and had period-appropriate big hair in '76.

 

BMW realized this problem in '75 -- the headroom problem, not my big hair -- and began including the Lower Front Seats on many sunroof cars. But you could still find '75 and '76 cars that did not have this option. And, of course, this being BMW and its style of U.S. importing in the '70s -- BMW NA carried on Hoffman Motors' policy of pre-ordering all U.S.-delivery cars -- you could not factory order a car with Lower Front Seats: if you needed one, you had to hope your dealer could find one in the color you wanted!

 

I was ready to not buy a '76, solely because I could not fit comfortably in even a non-sunroof version with the standard seats, until the dealer said, "What if we take the Lower Front Seats out of that Chamonix sunroof car and put them in the non-sunroof Polaris car?" Well, he did, and that combination worked, so I bought a new non-sunroof example with Lower Front Seats swiped out of a new sunroof car. They show up not on my car's window sticker but on its sales receipt (photo below) as "Low Front Seats $12.00".

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Conserv

[cda951]

Interestingly, all of the stickers shown so far indicate that the car came with "independent suspension front and rear with torsion bars."

 

Maybe whoever compiled the specs simply assumed that all small German cars used torsion bars, or maybe they viewed coil springs as coiled-up torsion bars, or they were referring to the sway bars

 

Cool to see all of the original documents. Looks like the combination of inflation and weakening dollar in the '70s was a bitch!

[Conserv]

On 2/17/2015 at 0:47 AM, cda951 said:

Interestingly, all of the stickers shown so far indicate that the car came with "independent suspension front and rear with torsion bars."

Maybe whoever compiled the specs simply assumed that all small German cars used torsion bars, or maybe they viewed coil springs as coiled-up torsion bars, or they were referring to the sway bars

Cool to see all of the original documents. Looks like the combination of inflation and weakening dollar in the '70s was a bitch!

 

Torsion bars = anti-sway bars (these features are translated from the German, and not always into "street English")

 

Regards,

 

Steve

Edited February 17, 2017 by Conserv

[HBChris]

Steve,

 

Very interesting about lower front seats, I had never heard of these.  I bought a Chamonix manual sunroof 2002 in 1974 and even though I am 6'5" I fit fine, I just reclined the seat a bit.  I also had a 76 with electric sunroof and I fit as there as well.  Most of my height is in the legs though.

[HBChris]

I forget where I got these, perhaps members here.

2581703 2002.pdf

[Conserv]

Steve,

 

Very interesting about lower front seats, I had never heard of these.  I bought a Chamonix manual sunroof 2002 in 1974 and even though I am 6'5" I fit fine, I just reclined the seat a bit.  I also had a 76 with electric sunroof and I fit as there as well.  Most of my height is in the legs though.

Chris,

And most of my height was in the torso and hair!

Regards,

Steve

[mac]

This window sticker was included when I bought an owners manual off eBay a few years back.

The Alpina supplement I've saved for "some reason".

mac.

Edited February 23, 2015 by mac

[mac]

[peterschop]

It would be helpful to include the year of the car so we don't have to look up serial number to figure it out, thanks.

Edited February 23, 2015 by peterschop

[Conserv]

The tii on mac's window sticker, VIN 2762987, would be a 1973 model year. It should have a manufacturing date between 2762757 (October 19, 1972) and 2763062 (November 15, 1972).

 

Steve

Edited February 17, 2017 by Conserv