Conversion to VW Disk Brakes

[Btwiceborn]

I have all the donor VW parts.  Does anyone have dimensions on the custom adapter brackets?

[02dag]

On 1/13/2019 at 7:22 PM, Robocopywriter said:

Interesting.  I may be wrong but I can't see where anyone mentions the VW MkIV caliper uses a banjo fitting that is M12x1.0 thread.  Ireland doesn't have a solution for this so I'm wondering what people are using.  Banjo bolts are easy to find on ECS but I'm not seeing a banjo that fits and has an M10x1.0 thread to fit the Ireland hose.

 

you can use the brake lines from a golf mkiv as well. The last part on a golf with the banjo fitting is long enough to connect to where the 02 line connects to the trailing arm.

[02dag]

On 6/26/2018 at 1:08 AM, chargin said:

I used the Ireland kit and it was a pure bolt on with no additional mods required.

be sure the brackets are correctly located 

 

if if you’re having problems give Ireland a call,  they’ve been very helpful for me on the conversion 

 

you up will need to shim as your car requires, each caliper takes a different spacing to fit just right 

 

 

 

No offence, but the MOT guys will probably die of laughter when they see your parking brake wire "shims"

[chargin]

1 hour ago, 02dag said:

 

No offence, but the MOT guys will probably die of laughter when they see your parking brake wire "shims"

 

I actually used the Wilwood Machined shims but they were not as effective as stacking washers to get the exact Offset I wanted 

 

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if you ever really want to see funny take a look at any pre-Audi Lamborghini, the whole body is leveled with shim washers as many as 12 in one spot. we were shocked when we saw in real life

 

[Robocopywriter]

On 1/13/2019 at 10:22 AM, Robocopywriter said:

Interesting.  I may be wrong but I can't see where anyone mentions the VW MkIV caliper uses a banjo fitting that is M12x1.0 thread.  Ireland doesn't have a solution for this so I'm wondering what people are using.  Banjo bolts are easy to find on ECS but I'm not seeing a banjo that fits and has an M10x1.0 thread to fit the Ireland hose.

In the end I had mine made up so I got them to look the way I wanted them.

[Dudeland]

Report on the Blunt kit for those who care. 

 

1) Hardware that comes with it is wonky. The threads were off on at least 3 of the hex head bolts. 

2) Chase the threads with a M10 x 1.5

3) You will need to notch the shock bracket.

4) The little washers were the right amount of spacing between the bracket and the caliper. 

5) There is a left and right bracket as well as caliper. 

6) Make sure to put the little shiny bits between the pads and the caliper, they allow them to slide back and forth

7) You may need to grind a bit of either side of the pad to get them in there. 

8.) Grease the hell out of the parking brake cables.  They will get seized up pretty quick as they are now open to the elements. 

9) I did a riv nut and a p clip on the top of the trailing arm to secure the hard line. 

10) I used a grinder and a 250 grit flap disk to clean up the surface where the bracket and trailing arm meet, 

11) Remove the VW parking brake cable guide by removing the small cap head screw and put the Blunt  supplied ones in. 

12) The parking brake on the VW's ratchet up, meaning that every time you pull the lever it will move the parking brake in.   In order for it to ratchet in,  the mechanism needs to return completely...  If your parking brake cable are sticky, they won't return all the way and the parking brake will not adjust properly.... Again grease the hell out of them, or perhaps get new ones. 

 

 

 

 

[chargin]

2 hours ago, Dudeland said:

, or perhaps get new ones. 

 

I went this route?

[1602driver]

Hi guys!

I’m Erol from Turkey and its my first comment. I don’t want to retrive a dead post but I recently bought a 72’ 1602 and i have major issues with my rear brakes. I want to change to this conversion kit instead of fixing original drum. I have all the donor wv parts. All i have missing is brackets. Does anyone have the dimensions of brackets? If you can send message to me I would be appreciate. 

Edited April 19, 2021 by 1602driver

[1602driver]

Does anyone know the thickness of custom bracket? I think i read 3/8” at another topic

[PhilC]

Hi All,

I am about to embark on this conversion but have a question about the wheel mounting surface final position. Does the mounting surface end up the same as the original drum surface or is further out or recessed in more? The reason I ask is my wheels do not have the clearance for the caliper and will need spacers but then if the mounting surface is the same as the original drum my wheels won’t clear the arches.

Thank you

Phil

[steve k.]

15 minutes ago, PhilC said:

Hi All,

I am about to embark on this conversion but have a question about the wheel mounting surface final position. Does the mounting surface end up the same as the original drum surface or is further out or recessed in more? The reason I ask is my wheels do not have the clearance for the caliper and will need spacers but then if the mounting surface is the same as the original drum my wheels won’t clear the arches.

Thank you

Phil

The mounting position is about the same the width of the drum and the rotor in the spot is very similar. 

 

[PhilC]

5 minutes ago, steve k. said:

The mounting position is about the same the width of the drum and the rotor in the spot is very similar. 

 

Thank you. So if I need spacers my wheel will be pushed out further than it is now?

[steve k.]

21 minutes ago, PhilC said:

Thank you. So if I need spacers my wheel will be pushed out further than it is now?

That is correct!

[PhilC]

7 minutes ago, steve k. said:

That is correct!

Thanks Steve for your quick responses.

[02dag]

56 minutes ago, PhilC said:

Hi All,

I am about to embark on this conversion but have a question about the wheel mounting surface final position. Does the mounting surface end up the same as the original drum surface or is further out or recessed in more? The reason I ask is my wheels do not have the clearance for the caliper and will need spacers but then if the mounting surface is the same as the original drum my wheels won’t clear the arches.

Thank you

Phil

There are small differences between the mk2 and the mk4 calipers and carriers, but nothing your washers or in worst case a spacer won't handle..
 

In my opinion the mk2 caliper fits better inside a 13 inch wheel, for the mk4  caliper you need at least a 14 inch wheel. It's  not necessary to use the mk4 calipers when you have to grind off all of the cooling fins.