tires and wheels '72 Baikal tii: Reconditioned Steelies...

[COOP]

Just back from the painter, waiting to be mated to brand new Michelin XAS tires from Coker...Something beautiful about their austerity, no?

COOP

Edited March 28, 2015 by COOP

[Conserv]

Yes, a thing -- or things -- of beauty!

Wheel covers ready?

Regards,

Steve

[willys]

very nice - 

Jeff

[JohnS]

Those rims look great.  I've got the stock 5Jx13 wheels on both of my tiis too.  Love those tires.  Are they 165/80 or 185/70?

John

Edited March 28, 2015 by JohnS

[COOP]

Are they 165/80 or 185/70?

 

Thanks John...The latter...

 

COOP

[Conserv]

Thanks John...The latter...

COOP

Wait, COOP: latter = 185/70

I believe all XAs's are approximately 80 series. There was a 185/70 XAs derivative, called the XVS, available in the late '70s -- standard on many early U.S. e21's -- but I don't believe Michelin is still producing them. What they refer to as 165HR13 and 185HR13 are, essentially, 80 series tire. If you want a Michelin 185/70, you need to move to the XDX, which is a derivative of the XWX.

And beware if these are 185HR13 XAs's, the overall diameter -- because they are not 70 series tires -- will be 24.8", substantially larger than the standard 165HR13 (a.k.a., 165/80/13) diameter of 23.2". A 185/70 tire generally has an overall diameter of approximately 23.2".

Regards,

Steve

Edited March 29, 2015 by Conserv

[COOP]

Wait, COOP: latter = 185/70

I believe all XAs's are approximately 80 series. There was a 185/70 XAs derivative, called the XVS, available in the late '70s -- standard on many U.S. e21's -- but I don't believe Michelin is still producing them. What they refer to as 165HR13 and 185HR13 are, essentially, 80 series tire. If you want a Michelin 185/70, you need to move to the XDX, which is a derivative of the XWX.

And beware if these are 185HR13 XAs's, the overall diameter -- because they are not 70 series tires -- will be 24.8", substantially larger than the standard 165HR13 (a.k.a., 165/80/13) diameter of 23.2". A 185/70 tire generally has an overall diameter of approximately 23.2".

Regards,

Steve

 

They're the 165HR13 size...Sorry, I was confused.  Thanks Steve! Keeping me honest as always...LOVE that about you!

 

COOP

Edited March 28, 2015 by COOP

[Conserv]

Thanks, COOP.

I didn't want JohnS to get off on the wrong foot!

Regards,

Steve

[Mike Self]

And for those of you who can't find the 5 jx 13 plain (roundie style) steel wheels, don't laugh, but wheels from later Opel Kadette station wagons are the same width and offset--and are made by the same company--as the BMW wheels.  And even easier to find are Chevette wheels--also made by Lemmetz.  Only drawback with the Chevette wheels is that BMW wheel covers won't fit them--but I think the center caps will.

 

cheers

mike

[Conserv]

So, COOP,

I'm always trying to figure out what "original" looked like. And I've noted that most original steel rims sets, on '02s (and this seems to hold for other mass-produced cars I've checked), are neither:

1. a perfectly matched set by date; nor

2. match the car's month of manufacture.

For instance, the five original rims on my '76 date from October '75 through March '76. The '76 was manufactured April '76. The four rims on the '73 tii when I acquired it are Kronprinz, not the much more usual Lemmerz, so I'm thinking they could well be original to the car. They date from February '72 through July '72. The '73 was manufactured October '72. I just happen to have a 5x13 tii Kronprinz in my collection, and it became the '73's spare, but it is dated February '73, 4 months after the car was built. Nonetheless, I guarantee some subsequent owner will claim it is original to the car!

Did your five tii rims come to you with the car? Are they all Lemmerz rims? What are their dates -- I see one November '71 rim? What is your car's manufacturing date?

Thanks and regards,

Steve

[Conserv]

n/t

Edited March 28, 2015 by Conserv

[COOP]

Did your five tii rims come to you with the car? Are they all Lemmerz rims? What are their dates -- I see one November '71 rim? What is your car's manufacturing date?

 

Hi Steve,

 

All five of my rims came with the tii and they are all Lemmerz with the same 11/71 date on them.  I'm not sure when my car was built but the VIN is 2760754.

 

COOP

[Conserv]

Hi Steve,

 

All five of my rims came with the tii and they are all Lemmerz with the same 11/71 date on them.  I'm not sure when my car was built but the VIN is 2760754.

 

COOP

Hey, COOP,

I have a few tii VIN manufacturing dates in my files. The closest to yours appears to be 2760440, with a manufacturing date of January 3rd, 1972. I'd bet yours is a January or February 1972 car.

But if you just send an email this weekend to BMW Group Archives (info.grouparchiv@bmwgroup.com) with your VIN, requesting all available information, on Monday you'll likely have, at no charge, your car's manufacturing date as well as the date when legal title was delivered to Hoffman Motors. And if you share that manufacturing date here, I can add it to my list!

Anyway, a complete set of date-matched steel rims is fairly rare. So that's cool!

Thanks for indulging me!

Regards,

Steve

[COOP]

But if you just send an email this weekend to BMW Group Archives (info.grouparchiv@bmwgroup.com) with your VIN, requesting all available information, on Monday you'll likely have, at no charge, your car's manufacturing date as well as the date when legal title was delivered to Hoffman Motors. And if you share that manufacturing date here, I can add it to my list!

 

Done!

 

COOP

[Conserv]

Thanks, COOP!