Very Early 1968 2002: VIN 1660016

[Conserv]

Wow!

 

Mark posted this Wisconsin Craig's List ad for a 1968 '02:

 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/176375-1968-bmw-2002-in-mackville-wi/

 

I can't resist scrutinizing ads for early 1600-2s and 2002s. Looking to confirm or deny my suspicions, I found the following thread, discussing other early '02s, including Mike S.'s approximate VIN cut-off for 1968 versus 1969 models.

 

http://www.bmw2002faq.com/topic/72349-just-purchased-1968-bmw-2002-polaris-99-rust-free/

 

VIN 1660016 could be the earliest 2002 known by this forum. My wife is just recovering from my purchase of the '73 tii in June 2014, so will someone PLEASE buy the Wisconsin car and NOT turn it into an M2 or track car? This could well be the earliest surviving U.S. 2002. And it appears to be an original Polaris car with a factory sunroof! Yeah! If you're having a tough time recognizing the significance of that, just imagine what Porsche collectors would be doing if it were the earliest surviving U.S. 911, and it had a factory sunroof to boot! You got it: hand-to-hand combat.

 

Oh, yeah, please DON'T throw out those original brake components, just because they were quirky, problematic, and parts haven't been available since...uh...1975; I'll bet White Post Restorations can restore the originals!

 

Regards,

 

Steve

Edited August 14, 2018 by Conserv

[02Les]

Wow! Indeed.

However, it is the 2nd oldest that we know of.

1660013 (also with sunroof) was on Ebay a couple of years ago in your neck of the woods Steve (Atlanta), although, condition-wise, 1660016 has a better chance of survival.

[Conserv]

Hmmm...? Earlier car? Or more complete car? Two good colors and both with factory sunroofs!

 

Regards,

 

Steve

Edited August 14, 2018 by Conserv

[freedo]

are factory sunroofs that popular with 2002 buyers? its my least favorite feature on mine.  sorry to go off topic

[Conserv]

On 1/25/2016 at 11:25 AM, freedo said:

are factory sunroofs that popular with 2002 buyers? its my least favorite feature on mine. sorry to go off topic

 

People love them or hate them! But, yes, I do believe a factory sunroof adds value to any '02 -- despite the higher incidence of rocker panel rust in sunroof examples. And because the earliest examples, and the latest examples, of a given car model are often the most collected, I believe the value of this feature -- any factory "option" for that matter -- is enhanced when it's found in these more collectible examples.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

Edited August 14, 2018 by Conserv

[eurotrash]

Jason Rose in Atlanta owns, or maybe recently sold 0013. 

Edited January 25, 2016 by eurotrash

[02Les]

Jason Rose in Atlanta owns, or maybe recently sold 0013.

Yes, it was he (Heritage Motorsports) that Ebayed it 2 years ago.

[HBChris]

That car is Manila, not Polaris, at least now it is. Seats with headrests from a much later car too.

[ray_]

People love them or hate them! But, yes, I do believe a factory sunroof adds value to any '02 -- despite the higher incidence of rocker panel rust in sunroof examples. And because the earliest examples, and the last examples, of a given car model are often the most collected, I believe the value of this type of feature is enhanced for these more collectible example.

Regards,

Steve

 

 

Yeah I think more chance of rust and less headroom add value.

 

 

Cheers,

[Mark92131]

That car is Manila, not Polaris, at least now it is. Seats with headrests from a much later car too.

 

Original Polaris Car, you can see the Polaris paint peeking through on the shots of the hood.

 

Mark92131

[Conserv]

On 1/25/2016 at 1:15 PM, ray_ said:

Yeah I think more chance of rust and less headroom add value.

 

 

Cheers,

 

That's unfair, Ray!

 

You've left out wind noise and air turbulence.

 

Best,

 

Steve

Edited August 14, 2018 by Conserv

[TobyB]

...I think the price is a bit optimistic, he snarks...

 

 

t

[Conserv]

On 1/25/2016 at 6:04 PM, TobyB said:

...I think the price is a bit optimistic, he snarks...

 

 

t

 

+1, Toby!

 

Steve

Edited August 14, 2018 by Conserv

[kris]

Wow!

..so will someone PLEASE buy the Wisconsin car and NOT turn it into an M2 or track car? This could well be the earliest surviving U.S. 2002.

Steve

I want an early car, but that looks like a big job to restore properly. The car would be safe with me because I already have an M2 and a track car Edited January 26, 2016 by kris

[HBChris]

Original Polaris Car, you can see the Polaris paint peeking through on the shots of the hood.

 

Mark92131

All I'm saying is it isn't Polaris now, the pics are definitely yellow.