Stock rims, need 165x 13 tires ?

[gary]

After much research I've decided

the best tires for stock ( 13X4.5) rims

are the mitchlin XAS

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by gary

[ray_]

41 minutes ago, 02princessLisa said:

 

After some research I think the Vredestein's are the PC for the Euro spec cars... but the size for the Vreds only come in 145 x 13's  not 165... ho hum..... unless I get white wall Vreds that are 165 x 13's .... !!?!? LOL!

 

 

Just put the wheels on backwards.

 

No one will know!

 

 

Face the whitewalls to the inside.

 

Cheers,

[tahoedon]

Looking again at the pictures of the 1600 in the Feb. 67 road test it did have whitewalls, about 1 inch wide.  I don't think I would want to be that correct though.

[Lisa.02P]

17 minutes ago, ray_ said:

Just put the wheels on backwards.

 

No one will know!

 

 

Face the whitewalls to the inside.

 

Brilliant!

[Lisa.02P]

After doing some more research tonight.. I'm seeing the Michelin's and German Dunlop SP's during that time too 1967, 1968...

[Delia]

I found this handy link:

 

http://www.automobile-catalog.com/tire/1968/131990/bmw_1600.html

 

And while the 1600 is indicated as having been shod with the 6.00 S 13 bias ply tires at the factory, radials aren't such a bad idea.  "Back in the day" they were about 50% MORE in terms of price, but their construction resulted in better fuel mileage.

 

The link also lists the relative tire sizes from bias ply to radial.  Note that the differences are in TENTHS OF ONE PER CENT of the tire DIAMETER - which translates to a small fraction of an inch.  On numerous websites where I've entered the stock 6.00 S 13 tire size, the comparable size pops up as 145 R 13.

 

And on the link I posted, the first comparable size is 145 R 13.  It is LESS in DIAMETER by  0.9%.  

 

Farther down the list it indicates that 155/80 R 13 and 165/75 R 13 sizes are also considered to be acceptable alternatives.  Both are 0.9% LARGER in diameter than the stock, bias-ply originals.

 

All this said, you can go with 6.00 S 13 bias ply whitewalls or slightly smaller/larger radials.  The choice is yours.

 

Also, according to this web catalog, if this were a 2002, it would have come from the factory with 165 R 13 radials.

 

Edit:  If there is any question regarding the beginning of Michelin XAS production, it is 1965 as mentioned here:

 

http://www.michelinclassic.com/en/Classic-Tyre-range/XAS

 

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Delia
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[Conserv]

+1

 

And here's the specs page from the May 1968 English-language brochure for the 1600-2 and 2002 -- 2002 production began around January 1968 -- showing radials as standard equipment on 2002's, but optional on 1600-2's.  As I've said above, I wouldn't hesitate to mount 165HR13 XAS's on my '66 1600-2 -- if I owned a '66 1600-2, which I don't!  ?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited February 17, 2017 by Conserv

[gary]

On 2/17/2017 at 9:47 AM, Conserv said:

+1

 

And here's the specs page from the May 1968 English-language brochure for the 1600-2 and 2002 -- 2002 production began around January 1968 -- showing radials as standard equipment on 2002's, but optional on 1600-2's.  As I've said above, I wouldn't hesitate to mount 165HR13 XAS's on my '66 1600-2 -- if I owned a '66 1600-2, which I don't!  ?

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

I'm not looking for alternatives

im looking for correct size which

im probably going to buy from Coker

( mitchlin xas) 

coker has to wait for mitchlin historic

to make a batch of them first