Alloys

[Daver]

Looking for a set of these alloys. I believe used on 2002 TII 1971-1972. 5x13 rim size. Thanks

[ray_]

I believe those are still available new. 

 

FWIW...

[Conserv]

Available from the factory as part of the Sport Paket option on European touring models.  In the U.S., simply a dealer accessory, and thus intended for all '02's.  Manufactured back in the day and today by the same company: F.P.S.  Original-era examples have the "FPS" on the rear while modern re-pops place the "FPS" on the front face.

 

You'll need the center caps as well: still available from BMW.

 

The first two photos below show my four modern re-pops.  I gave up looking for an old set because they're really quite rare and, given repair, truing, and refinishing costs for a period set, the new re-pops are easy and relatively cheap.  And the third and fourth photos below show my period spare rm.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Conserv

[02Les]

9 hours ago, Conserv said:

Available from the factory as part of the Sport Paket option on European touring models.  In the U.S., simply a dealer accessory, and thus intended for all '02's.

 

 

 

Well said Steve. This myth of them being tii alloys needs to die.

[Conserv]

4 minutes ago, 02Les said:

Well said Steve. This myth of them being tii alloys needs to die.

 

We are on the same page, Les, as usual!

 

Die, Myth, die!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

[ray_]

Got any tii clocks for me? 

 

?

[02Les]

3 hours ago, ray_ said:

Got any tii clocks for me? 

 

?

Ray, I have a '71-'73 tii clock

[ray_]

Well I was joking about that a little, Les, since "tii clock" is arguably a misnomer.

 

But Bo is looking for one for his resto!

 

Cheers,

[Swiss 2002Tii]

Do you use any clear coat or powder coat on these when they're new?

[Conserv]

3 hours ago, ray_ said:

Well I was joking about that a little, Les, since "tii clock" is arguably a misnomer.

 

Hmmm, Trouble-Maker!

 

I saw what you were doing and tried hard to simply ignore it!

 

But a "tii clock" doesn't share the characteristics of the early OEM alloy rims.  It came from the factory solely on tii sub-models.  And it was never marketed as an aftermarket dealer accessory even though a number of exceedingly clever owners of other sub-models, contrary to all good sense and displaying more than a dash of arrogance, mounted them "tii style" in lesser sub-models....

 

 Although very similar to the "ti clock", the "tii clock" doesn't have the bright trim ring of the ti version.  Of course, since the square taillight cars used a different clock face and added an additional hood or shroud, there are two versions of the "tii clock"....

 

Below: tii clock in lesser sub-model, i.e., 1976 2002...owner unknown...

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

[Conserv]

2 hours ago, Swiss 2002Tii said:

Do you use any clear coat or powder coat on these when they're new?

 

They were painted silver from the factory originally -- i.e., the period versions.  It was not a two-stage paint, and it wasn't a glorious, deep finish, as we are now inclined to apply when restoring all rims.  Although BMW was using two-stage body paints for its metallic colors, e.g., Polaris metallic, from at least ca. 1973, rims did not receive the same attention as the bodies.   I say 1973 only because that marked the introduction of the "PVC-frei" metallics, which were certainly two-stage.  I'm not certain if the predecessor metallics were two-stage paints.  By 1977, many U.S. body shops were not yet comfortable with two-stage paints to actually use them after repairs.  In that year, my BMW dealer repainted my '76's left door from the belt line molding to the window -- a passing car had knocked my mirror into the door and off the car -- but only applied the flat silver-gray base coat and called it "completed".  It stood out like a sore thumb but I had to make half a dozen calls to find a body shop ready to use two-stage paint.

 

My single period version was professionally painted by the rim shop I used in Atlanta.  It's nothing fancy or special.

 

I've never analyzed the finish on my modern versions. however.  They're probably painted rather than powdercoated.  And they don't have a deep glorious finish, although they look fine.  Two-stage?  I don't know.

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited August 4, 2017 by Conserv

[ray_]

1 hour ago, Conserv said:

 

Hmmm, Trouble-Maker!

 

I saw what you were doing and tried hard to simply ignore it!

 

But a "tii clock" doesn't share the characteristics of the early OEM alloy rims.  It came from the factory solely on tii sub-models.  And it was never marketed as an aftermarket dealer accessory even though a number of exceedingly clever owners of other sub-models, contrary to all good sense and displaying more than a dash of arrogance, mounted them "tii style" in lesser sub-models....

 

 Although very similar to the "ti clock", the "tii clock" doesn't have the bright trim ring of the ti version.  Of course, since the square taillight cars used a different clock face and added an additional hood or shroud, there are two versions of the "tii clock"....

 

Below: tii clock in lesser sub-model, i.e., 1976 2002...owner unknown...

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

Here fishy!

 

Unless I'm wrong, I believe the ti clock has a different face than the tii clock.

 

Cheers,

[Conserv]

1 hour ago, ray_ said:

 

....Unless I'm wrong, I believe the ti clock has a different face than the tii clock.

 

Cheers,

 

Now THAT'S useful information!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited August 5, 2017 by Conserv

[ray_]

Are you implying I usually don't.... ?

 

 

[shermanmartinez]

Luckily my 73tii that I purchased from the original owner after his 25 years of ownership was smart enough to save the original wheels under a tarp in his garage after mounting some E30 bottlecap wheels on the car that he was sure I would be crazy about. I asked him," What wheels came on the car when you bought it?". He replied," Oh some mag wheels".  I asked what they looked like, then opened the trunk knowing that if they were factory mags, there would be a matching spare in the trunk and sure enough there was!