1602 Brake mst cylinder

[Littleeagle28]

Can anyhone help out and let me know where I can get a brake mst cyllinder for a 1602 in the UK?  Or will any '02 brake mst cylinder fit?  My pedal goes nearly all the way down and I have bled all the brakes several times.

 

cheers

[Simeon]

Speak to Jaymic but be prepared for ££££

 

The other option is to find an independent brake specialist who can sleeve the bore and refurbish for you. I think @larryt did this recently. 

[Schnellvintage]

I have used White Post Restorations in the past for brake component rebuilding on a Fiat 8V and old Alfa. I was very pleased with there service and workmanship.
Matt


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[Littleeagle28]

Thanks for the replies, much appreciated.  Struggling to see how to remove the mst cylinder though?

[TobyB]

What year?  0, 1 or 2 boosters?  Master on the pedal box?

 

Not many of us have seen/ been cursed with the remote

boosters that the RHD cars got.  Pictures will help.  

As will the Austriailians!

 

If the master's on the pedal box, there are just 2 nuts on the 

studs that come through the flange ears of the master.  And the

brake lines, of course...

 

l

[Littleeagle28]

15 minutes ago, TobyB said:

What year?  0, 1 or 2 boosters?  Master on the pedal box?

 

Not many of us have seen/ been cursed with the remote

boosters that the RHD cars got.  Pictures will help.  

As will the Austriailians!

 

If the master's on the pedal box, there are just 2 nuts on the 

studs that come through the flange ears of the master.  And the

brake lines, of course...

 

l

It is a 1974 with 2 servos, and tandem master.  My hands are as big a small shovels, and trying to get near the firewall where the master is bolted on was a pig, but in good old Brit Army grit, got stuck in with a small 13mm socket and extender and 'felt' for the nut.  Once on, and with lots of lubrication, managed to remove both nuts, the one on the bottom was a total feel in the dark adventure.

 

The  so called 'Bitch clip', was a doddle though, as brake pedal was easy to work round.  Now just have to remove both brake pipe nuts on the master, so leaving to soak in lubrication.  I don't have flare spanners, and I want to re-use the nuts and pipes, so stuck for idea she at the moment, don't want to wreck the nuts with a normal spanner.

[02Les]

13 minutes ago, Littleeagle28 said:

It is a 1974 with 2 servos, and tandem master.  My hands are as big a small shovels, and trying to get near the firewall where the master is bolted on was a pig, but in good old Brit Army grit, got stuck in with a small 13mm socket and extender and 'felt' for the nut.  Once on, and with lots of lubrication, managed to remove both nuts, the one on the bottom was a total feel in the dark adventure.

 

The  so called 'Bitch clip', was a doddle though, as brake pedal was easy to work round.  Now just have to remove both brake pipe nuts on the master, so leaving to soak in lubrication.  I don't have flare spanners, and I want to re-use the nuts and pipes, so stuck for idea she at the moment, don't want to wreck the nuts with a normal spanner.

Yeah, you needed a trained ferret to get in there. Several areas under the bonnet where you can tell it was a LHD engineered car & a RHD afterthought.

[Simeon]

8 hours ago, 02Les said:

Yeah, you needed a trained ferret to get in there. Several areas under the bonnet where you can tell it was a LHD engineered car & a RHD afterthought.

... and yet we got the ‘proper’ pedals!

[TobyB]

Oh heck, see, I forgot you had the drop- down version 

so that the exhaust could keep your feet warm in winter!

 

Now, if Germans were truly the obsessive engineers they

are SUPPOSED to be, they would have made an M10 that flopped the

opposite way, breathed out on the left, and run the exhaust down the LEFT side of the tunnel.

Now, THAT would have been impressive....

 

LE, if you can get that master outa there, you may very well disover

that you can find one that's dimensionally close enough to work just fine...

BMW didn't make any more parts than they absolutely had to...

 

t

 

 

[Simeon]

The Australian Facebook group has a few people that have adapted a Mitsubishi master cylinder since everybody is worried about the availability of RHD masters. Not sure I would go that far, I favour a resleeve myself, but there are a few other options out there. 

 

Definitely speak to Jaymic first though, even if you don’t spring for something that they are selling they would be happy to discuss other options that may work. 

[Littleeagle28]

2 hours ago, Simeon said:

The Australian Facebook group has a few people that have adapted a Mitsubishi master cylinder since everybody is worried about the availability of RHD masters. Not sure I would go that far, I favour a resleeve myself, but there are a few other options out there. 

 

Definitely speak to Jaymic first though, even if you don’t spring for something that they are selling they would be happy to discuss other options that may work. 

 

Thanks, may even look to Germany to find one?

[Simeon]

Always worth trying Walloth and Nesch but pretty sure they don’t have any. I think Jaymic are the only source and I think they are £700 ish

[Littleeagle28]

42 minutes ago, Simeon said:

Always worth trying Walloth and Nesch but pretty sure they don’t have any. I think Jaymic are the only source and I think they are £700 ish

 

Thanks Simeon, however as I am born Scotsman? I'll try every other possibility first, plus it's good to learn.

[Simeon]

Linwar do exchange refurbished too. 

 

https://www.linwar.com/bmw_e10_brake_cylinders_servos.html

 

 

[ShakeyC]

BEWARE refurbished units they are simply cleaned poorly with new rubber bits to make it look nice, yes BMW main dealer you included.

 

Pastparts is only place I use or recommend who refurbishes hydraulics properly is by drilling out and resleeving so it has smooth internal bore and much much longer life without leaks.

www.pastparts.co.uk