BaT 1972 Tii

[NYNick]

Can't believe nobody posted this yet. Well sold!

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002tii-20/

[fastricky]

From the comments on BAT there was some shill bidding going on to drive the price up. I didn't think that car commanded that sort of money so that made sense to me...

[SteveJ]

53000 miles? 

That's a lot of missed drives and fond memories. I hope it actually has a broken speedo, or better yet, has rolled over a couple of times.

 

It does help values.

[PaulTWinterton]

Is it coincidence that all the high dollar cars are blues?

 

Love the paint on this one.  Love the tires too.

Edited August 28, 2018 by PaulTWinterton

[conkitchen]

it was the Delia effect or was that affect? 

Edited August 29, 2018 by conkitchen

[02Les]

Like I mentioned in another post, the Seller had it for sale for the past 4~5 months for $42k and no takers.

[repoman]

8 hours ago, NYNick said:

Can't believe nobody posted this yet. Well sold!

 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002tii-20/

 

I posted this car on the FAQ classifieds a few months back...It was on craigslist.  The seller PM'd me to delete the ad on the FAQ so he could post it on BAT...

[PaulTWinterton]

54 minutes ago, repoman said:

 

I posted this car on the FAQ classifieds a few months back...It was on craigslist.  The seller PM'd me to delete the ad on the FAQ so he could post it on BAT...

Well played on his part.  He did well.

[NYNick]

13 hours ago, fastricky said:

From the comments on BAT there was some shill bidding going on to drive the price up. I didn't think that car commanded that sort of money so that made sense to me...

Never saw these comments. I watched the last 10 minutes and it was exciting.

[mac]

Fastricky:

 

 Educate me.  What leads you to believe there was some shilll bidding on this car?  We all need to look out for that "stuff" in the future. 

 

Thanks. 

 

Mac

[fastricky]

Read the comments on the auction page, the same bidder bid multiple times back to back (so he bid over his previous bid).

[AlfaBMWGuy]

I don't have a horse in this race, but I just went through the entire bid history for this auction and there is not a single instance of the same bidder bidding over his previous bid.  This claim comes up quite a bit on BaT auctions, but it always turns out that it is a browser or network connection irregularity on the part of the person making the claim and never an actual case of the same bidder twice in a row.  I know that shill bidding is still possible even outside of a single bidder bumping his previous high bid, but I don't see any evidence of it with this auction.  I think multiple people just really wanted this car, and one just wanted it a bit more than the others, and these bidders weren't concerned with spending over what is considered the current market value.

[jp5Touring]

54 minutes ago, fastricky said:

Read the comments on the auction page, the same bidder bid multiple times back to back (so he bid over his previous bid).

I didn't see that  when I watched the auction, all had counter bids.

The two highest bidders both had zero bids before that auction, I don't see that as a big deal.

One person complained about the clock resetting after a bid,but he was a newbie.

I can't see it as  a 68k 02,but then I'm a cheap ass.

[fastricky]

Someone posted on the comments about the shill bid and included an image demonstrating that, and it got removed since... anywho, I don't think the purchase price on that car is out of line for a well sorted tii whatsoever, but it ain't that car.

Edited August 29, 2018 by fastricky

[AlfaBMWGuy]

That post with image wasn't reality, but a browser/network irregularity for that user so it just demonstrated a glitch in their own setup.  Similarly, people complain all the time that they are prevented from bidding during the last few seconds of an auction and therefore lose out on a car they are interested in, which again always turns out to be related to their own setup and also shows why it is dumb to wait until the last few seconds to try to place a bid because of that risk.  Since BaT doesn't allow "sniping", it makes no sense as a bidding strategy anyway.

 

I would be very surprised if BaT auctions even allowed the same person to up their own high bid.  If it did really happen, there would be lots of people seeing it and claiming it.  Instead it is people with unusual and poor setups regarding their browser and network connectivity for following the auctions who make the claims.  I can understand BaT deleting those posts as well since the integrity of the auctions are at the core of their very successful business.  Again, I do suspect there is sometimes shill bidding going on with BaT just like other auction websites and live auctions and there is nothing BaT can do to 100% prevent that beyond mitigating it by banning sellers and bidders when they discover it.  But, it's never going to be something as obvious as the same bidder bumping his own high bid on BaT.