1972 Tii (vancouver) UPDATE

[02Les]

10 hours ago, joysterm said:

For the benefit of the members who are following the BaT auction I came across this yesterday but was unable to post due to BaT spam concerns,

 

http://davidsclassiccars.com/bmw/230190-1972-bmw-2002tii-roundie-atlantik-blue-no-reserve-nr-matching-numbers.html provides a lil more info you may find interesting.

 

That was when it was on Ebay. The Seller had it on Ebay 3 times in Jun & Jul 2017. It reportedly sold to the current Owner/Seller for $18,600. I think the South Carolina Ebay Seller was the only one that was realistic &, dare I say, honest.

The current Seller (Peter) immediately (Aug 2017) offered it on Craigslist (Los Angeles!!) for $25k, then in Vancouver, BC for $37k (probably CAN$).

[Mario Falfan]

The left door card looks awful, and you can see the door clips thru the vinyl...it shows nice, but very far from perfect, the seller is wanting way too much money for the armor all on the tires....

[Mario Falfan]

1 hour ago, 02Les said:

 

That was when it was on Ebay. The Seller had it on Ebay 3 times in Jun & Jul 2017. It reportedly sold to the current Owner/Seller for $18,600. I think the South Carolina Ebay Seller was the only one that was realistic &, dare I say, honest.

The current Seller (Peter) immediately (Aug 2017) offered it on Craigslist (Los Angeles!!) for $25k, then in Vancouver, BC for $37k (probably CAN$).

After I saw the link I totally remembered seeing the car on eBay....wow !

[joysterm]

On 12/3/2018 at 6:58 AM, 02Les said:

 

The current Seller (Peter) immediately (Aug 2017) offered it on Craigslist (Los Angeles!!) for $25k, then in Vancouver, BC for $37k (probably CAN$).

 

Its funny you mention this. The day the ad appeared here in Vancouver I called him knowing that he had purchased the car from SC. When pressed for more details on the car he only offered that "it was a great car, a real investment. Numbers matching.... a real high quality driver. " He offered absolutely no history when pressed further,  only that he would be happy to call me once  landed in BC. He indicated to me that he was having issues with the delivery....I am sure that was BS as well. In any case he did not follow thru on the call.  

 

Mr. Peter M has quite a growing rep in this market with a limited O2 community.  The common thread with most if not all that I have talked to have had any interactions with this guy, is that it is impossible to get a straight answer from him when asking about any of his CL listing. Personally I would be wary of even  asking this guy to change  a 5$ bill for fear he would try to rip you off in the exchange.  IMHO he may come across as a being  naive about the car history and its short coming in particular but the fact remains he sees an opportunity to hang this sale on some poor unsuspecting deep pocketed collector.

 

They say what goes around comes around......I hope any potential buyer can see thru his line of bullshit, but I digress.

 

edit: This guy on FB as well.

Edited December 7, 2018 by joysterm

[Mario Falfan]

Talk about due diligence, if not this guy will fleece you  !

[joebarthlow]

Another dumpster fire on BaT. Likely headed for another 200+ comments and a reserve not met. 

[joysterm]

34 minutes ago, Mario Falfan said:

Talk about due diligence, if not this guy will fleece you  !

to coin an ol Canadian adage.....fu**in EH

[UroTrash]

7 hours ago, 02Les said:

 

That was when it was on Ebay. The Seller had it on Ebay 3 times in Jun & Jul 2017. It reportedly sold to the current Owner/Seller for $18,600. I think the South Carolina Ebay Seller was the only one that was realistic &, dare I say, honest.

The current Seller (Peter) immediately (Aug 2017) offered it on Craigslist (Los Angeles!!) for $25k, then in Vancouver, BC for $37k (probably CAN$).

 

 

I was the seller and indeed, I posted a painfully honest description.

 

I treat people fairly as I would want.

 

The buyer/present owner seemed to be a very nice man. 

 

 A lot has been done to the car since it was mine.

 

 

[joysterm]

12 minutes ago, UroTrash said:

 

I treat people fairly as I would want.

Given my experience with this individual I would not even begin to think of him in the same light.  I am sure there are a few prospective buyers in this case who very much appreciative  of your candour in comparison his level of disclosure. So thank you for providing  the much needed history.

[conkitchen]

As with ALL (past & present) Select Classic Cars, the commentary thread just keeps on spinning. Boy have those guys really put the hurt on some 2002's. 

but what do I know 

Edited December 3, 2018 by conkitchen

[iinca]

Lets call them Select Wrecks..

 

and just to throw more gas on the fire here's some examples of Jon Kirkegaard's high quality workmanship>

 

Lovely upholstery job on trunk panels! My 7 year old niece to a fabulous job!!!

 

Look at superb attention to detail we used when applying color! AND those quarter panels look pretty close to the door color...and the trunk and hood might be a couple shades off but what the hell.... Let's call it driver quality...yeah that will do

 

only 6 exaust manifold nuts needed..

 

7 will do on the intake

 

quality headliner good for 10 miles before it comes undone on the rear edge!

 

No block ground? Lets' run some light gauge wire haphazardly wrapped in black tape to a  strut tower bolt

 

I guess this steak knife will do for trimming out the carpet kit!!

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by iinca

[joysterm]

I am at a loss for words but........to quote Jimmy Fallon.......”SERIOUSLY”

 

 

 

Edited December 4, 2018 by joysterm

[Mario Falfan]

Wow that Inka baby sure does have issues....

[iinca]

Driving it down the road was SUPER obnoxious. NVH off the charts and more rattles than Kate + 8

 

I consider getting my $$ back from that ass klown was one the luckiest days of my life!

 

Jon Kirkgaarde's thing is he makes you believe everything that comes out of his cake hole. Even if it's complete bullshit he owns it big time. He paints such a pretty picture. Within 10 minutes of getting the car I realized it was All LIES!!!

 

Part of his schtick' is to talk down the customer like he's some German Car God.. Funny thing is he really doesn't know that much about 2002's. The majority of members here know more that he does.

 

He tried to tell me that car was worth 50 grand!!! Meanwhile I'm thinking its really more like 10 lol... and he lost his mind when I told him that. He kept repeating it's an INKA tii...INKA tii...INKA tii and it's the holy grail...INKA tii

 

 It didn't take me long to figure out he was a con man of highest level.

 

 

Edited December 5, 2018 by iinca

[rphdiego]

With all the 'information' here and in the BaT comments about this tii I am amazed someone would pay $44.5k for it. I smell a shill (or 2) in the bidding. I wonder how BaT can confirm if there was fraudulent bidding and if they care?