alpina wheels

[2k2tii]

Price: $1900

Location: Sacramento, CA

Description:

set of 4 factory 13” alpina wheels

 

authentic, not reproductions

 

(4) 13"x6" 

 

condition: mint; all 4 wheels are true with no bends. zero curb rash. 

 

backspacing is identical in offset to factory 2002tii alloys. 

 

$1900 picked up

 

willing to ship via FedEx at the buyers expense 

 

*note: only 1 wheel is shown but all 4 are in the exact same condition 

 

 

Edited February 8, 2019 by 2k2tii

[02Les]

I thought the factory optional alloys had an ET of around 30, not 12. Am I missing something?

[2k2tii]

1 hour ago, 02Les said:

I thought the factory optional alloys had an ET of around 30, not 12. Am I missing something?

 

1st pic: tii alloy

 

2nd pic: alpina

 

 

 

Edited February 8, 2019 by 2k2tii

[02Les]

Ok, backspacing (as you measured) & offset (ET) are two different things.

[wegweiser]

2 hours ago, 02Les said:

I thought the factory optional alloys had an ET of around 30, not 12. Am I missing something?

With that offset, it's the OUTER edge of the tire that may rub on 2002s. These are E21 offset which works on *most* 2002s depending on tire size and spring / shock combo. YMMV.

[1600]

Ran these exact wheels, size, width, ET, etc for decades on my '72 2002tii with 185/70-13 Michelin tires.  They never rubbed or gave me trouble.  IIRC, that car was lowered about 1.5" front and rear.  We all rolled the fender lips, because that's what we did.  One of my co-workers ran 205's with rolled lips and we never talked about interference issues and we were pretty wild drivers back then :) 

[uai]

On 2/8/2019 at 2:39 AM, 02Les said:

I thought the factory optional alloys had an ET of around 30, not 12. Am I missing something?

Which Factory are you talking Alpina? or BMW?

ET is always in dependence of width to keep track approximately the same.
The only 6" rims approved from BMW themselves were
36 11 1 112 514 6Jx13H2 ET13 and later came
36 11 2 201 802 ET20 and

36 11 1 118 307 ET13

For 6,5" ET 6 was allowed

It makes sense to have a larger ET in front when running Turbo Hubs

So both ET are correct

 

Source: BMW Umrüstmöglichkeiten  06/1982

 

 

 

Edited February 9, 2019 by uai

[02Les]

7 hours ago, uai said:

Which Factory are you talking Alpina? or BMW?

ET is always in dependence of width to keep track approximately the same.
The only 6" rims approved from BMW themselves were
36 11 1 112 514 6Jx13H2 ET13 and later came
36 11 2 201 802 ET20 and

36 11 1 118 307 ET13

For 6,5" ET 6 was allowed

It makes sense to have a larger ET in front when running Turbo Hubs

So both ET are correct

 

Source: BMW Umrüstmöglichkeiten  06/1982

 

 

 

I was thinking of the early BMW optional alloys 5 x 13 (part of the Touring sport paket) which I think were ET26 (?) (ET30 was probably the E30 6 x 13 bottlecap ones)

[wegweiser]

18 hours ago, 1600 said:

Ran these exact wheels, size, width, ET, etc for decades on my '72 2002tii with 185/70-13 Michelin tires.  They never rubbed or gave me trouble.  IIRC, that car was lowered about 1.5" front and rear.  We all rolled the fender lips, because that's what we did.  One of my co-workers ran 205's with rolled lips and we never talked about interference issues and we were pretty wild drivers back then  

 

 

"...We all rolled the fender lips..."

 

And there you have it.

 

[Lengrep]

Well, the factory alloys are 5x13 with a ET 26...

36111107915

Still available from BMW


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[Lengrep]

Looks like no interference inboard. Comparing the factory alloys to these Alpina, both with 185/70-13 tires, the rim pokes out the extra inch, but the tire pokes out only slightly based on the website I use for these questions...


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[2k2tii]

On 2/9/2019 at 9:21 PM, Lengrep said:

Looks like no interference inboard. Comparing the factory alloys to these Alpina, both with 185/70-13 tires, the rim pokes out the extra inch, but the tire pokes out only slightly based on the website I use for these questions...


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thanks for the additional info from this website (willtheyfit.com); seems like a handy resource.

[Lengrep]

 
thanks for the additional info from this website (willtheyfit.com); seems like a handy resource.

Yes, but I entered the wrong offset for factory alloys. Doesn’t really change the result. I love that website, though!!


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[Conserv]

On 2/9/2019 at 3:12 AM, uai said:

Which Factory are you talking Alpina? or BMW?

ET is always in dependence of width to keep track approximately the same.
The only 6" rims approved from BMW themselves were
36 11 1 112 514 6Jx13H2 ET13 and later came
36 11 2 201 802 ET20 and

36 11 1 118 307 ET13

 

 

OK, Uli,

 

I give up: what do a 36 11 2 201 802, ET 20, and a 36 11 1 118 307, ET13, look like?

 

I am certainly familiar with the 6x13, ET13, part number 36 11 1 112 514, the factory option alloy rim for the factory turbo (with versions made by both FPS and Mahle). Photograph of a Mahle example below. Are the other two rims also approved solely for the factory turbo, with its fender flares?

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

Edited March 2, 2019 by Conserv

[Conserv]

On 2/10/2019 at 12:10 AM, Lengrep said:

Well, the factory alloys are 5x13 with a ET 26...

36111107915

Still available from BMW


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As you note, the early OEM alloys, by FPS, remain available (or became “once again” available, beginning nearly 20 years ago). The late OEM alloys, by both FPS and Mahle, however, were ET28. Thus, BMW was pulling them inward by 2mm, as compared to the early OEM ET26. Why?

 

And, the round taillight 5x13 steelies had an offset of ET26, while the square taillight 5x13 steelies had an offset of ET29, so they moved the steelies inward by 3mm.

 

Do we know why they moved the square taillight rims inward?

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited March 2, 2019 by Conserv