matching numbers ?

[Karl Krumrey]

recently purchased '68 1600-2. (vin 1561418) previous owners (2) known, do not believe engine was ever replaced, heavy grease/grim kinda supports that, BUT engine number does not match VIN. Is it possible to be oem with different numbers?

one other question, is the oem front "embossed" hood molding available from any supplier, anywhere?

Thanks for any input, Karl

['76mintgrün'02]

The engine VIN would have been the same as the body, when it left the factory.  If you post the VIN on the engine, someone here might be able to tell you whether it is a 1600 still, or it has been swapped for a 2L engine... which was a common "up"grade.

 

The embossed hood molding is rare and special.  No longer available new.  That sure is a pretty little detail.

 

It'd be fun to see some photos of your new car  

Tom

[Karl Krumrey]

engine # 1522790, any info on year,etc appreciated

 

[02Les]

21 minutes ago, Karl Krumrey said:

engine # 1522790, any info on year,etc appreciated

 

1522790 would be a 1600-2 motor from April 1967. Your car would be November 1967.

[Mike Self]

The 1522790 motor would have had 6 volt electrics and came from a pre-US only version of the 1600.  US-spec only cars began with the 1968 model year at VIN 1560001; 150-155xxxx VINs are 1600s produced before the split between US and rest-of-the-world models.  So a PO swapped out the 6v generator and starter for 12 volt units, probably from the original motor.  

 

One of these days some clever soul is gonna make a die to re-stamp plain hood moldings with the embossed pattern, and make a lot of early 1600 & 2002 owners very happy!

 

mike 

[jp5Touring]

Karl is that 1600 from Sparta Mi. ?  I  had a look at it a month or so ago. Chamonix with a sunroof and for some reason he hadn't hooked up the front calipers.  Very solid car  in need of little TLC to be a very nice 1600.  I was there when he cleaned off the grease and realized it wasn't numbers matching.

He seemed surprised by that.   Nice score,Congrats. 

[Karl Krumrey]

Yep its the Sparta car, have installed new front calipers/pads, new rear shoes, wheel brake cyl’s, so has brakes now, likly will install new rubber brake hoses next, acting like one or more may be collapsed , ordered weatherstrip seal set, was starting to get into it, however just had health issue come up, and so I likly will be selling for what I have into it, in case anyone interested,,,the good, solid undercarraige, the bad, amatuer 25 plus yr old repaint

( easy for me, retired autobidy tech paint rep) other bad, sunroof not working properly, will likly have to drop headliner to get a look see, repair, but I intended to replace headliner anyway

Edited March 15, 2019 by Karl Krumrey

[mccusername]

Karl,

I am interested. Where is the car now?

 

Thanks,

Michael

[Karl Krumrey]

Manustique, UP Michigan

[mccusername]

Makes sense-- getting to Sparta, MI to see it was a barrier for me. I'm running out now, but I will PM you later.

[Karl Krumrey]

Manustique, UP Michigan

[HBChris]

And 1968 US cars never had the embossed front hood trim I believe.

[Karl Krumrey]

Thanks for info

[tahoedon]

31 minutes ago, HBChris said:

And 1968 US cars never had the embossed front hood trim I believe.

My Feb 68 1600 came with the embossed front hood trim.

[Conserv]

12 minutes ago, HBChris said:

And 1968 US cars never had the embossed front hood trim I believe.

 

That’s probably right for a 1968 model manufactured in November 1967, but 1968 models manufactured in September and parts of October 1967 certainly received many of the 1966-67 goodies, such as two-spoke steering wheels, silver-painted instrument bezels, chrome-faced dashes, triangular cut-outs in the trunk bulkhead, etc. West palm’s very original and complete VIN 1560364 (September 1967) came to him with the embossed hood trim, visible in the second photo, albeit off the car.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve