No turn signal return with Nardi steering wheel hubs?

[Hodgepodge]

OK, long story short (you're welcome). 

 

If you have a Nardi or Momo wheel on your 2002, how did you get the turn signal return to work.  I replaced my black E21 wheel with a beautiful Nardi wheel and hub, but the hub has no tab.   

Is there a tab fitting?  Is there something I can purchase?  Do I have to fabricate something and attach it to the hub?   I checked with Jason at Crowders aqnd he did not have any suggestions for the tab.    Any suggestions would be appreciated.   

 

Nardi hub looks like this with a pin and no tab.

 

E21 wheel looks like this. 

 

There is a part listed in realoem that look like it might be a piece that attached to the steering wheel shaft, but I can't tell how it is attached or if it is actually the turnsignal return tab.  The part is  32321118825.  

 

Thanks!  

Edited April 4, 2019 by Hodgepodge

[Preyupy]

The stock 2002 had a separate piece that went on behind the steering wheel that looked very much like the black plastic piece on your E21 wheel but it is not actually part of the hub.  #8 in the picture

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No.	Description	Supp.	Qty	From	Up To	Part Number	Price		Notes
01	Steering column tube		1			32311110904			ENDED
02	Snap ring		1	08/1973	07/1977	32311113566	$0.37
03	Steering spindle bearing		1			32311107627	$99.90
04	Compression spring		1			32311101017	$2.13
05	Washer		1			32311159247	$0.22
06	Snap ring		1			32312083712	$0.37
07	Ring	14 MM	1			32311120260	$6.79
08	Retainer		1			32321118825	$15.17
09	Bracket		1			32311108986			ENDED
11	Wave washer	B5	2		07/1977	07119932047	$0.09		ENDED
11	Wave washer	B5	2			07119932098	$0.38
12	Set fillister head screw 10	M5X8	2			07509064345			ENDED
13	Fillister head screw	M6X55	4			07119906437	$0.45
13	Sheet metal screw		4	08/1973	07/1977	32311112030	$0.45		ENDED
14	Wave washer	B6	4			07119932072	$0.09		ENDED

Notes

• ENDED = the part has been discontinued (no longer available).

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[Hodgepodge]

Pryupy, I suspected that was the piece also.   My other 2002 is on a dolly and the subframes are is out, so I will have to be creative and get that stock steering wheel apart.  Hopefully, I will be able to figure out what I need from that wheel. It looks like that will at leasst be the part we identified above. 

 

Thanks,

 

Scott

 

[Mike Self]

Scott:  if you look carefully at the Nardi hub you pictured, you'll see a machined-in groove and lip surrounding the splined center.  That's where you press in the "thimble" that serves as the canceling finger for your turn signal lever.  Its positioning depends on whether your turn signal lever is on the right (roundies) or left (squarelights).  The thimble should be a press fit, but if it's loose, a little dab of contact cement will hold it in position.  Once the hub is installed and torqued down, the thimble will be squashed between hub and the steering shaft hub.  

 

mike

[Jbaumshelter]

3 O" Clock Position on Early Cars. 9 0" Clock position on late model cars. 

I think I have a few of those if you can't find one. Pretty sure you can still source them pretty easily though. 

[NYTransplant]

I added a Nardi wheel, and I reused the tab, Number 8, between the hub and the bushing as Preyupy & Mike mentioned.

 

While we're on the RealOEM illustration, I haven't been able to figure out which part is the steering column bearing.  Number 7 is a "Ring", but it certainly isn't a bearing, as it's a solid piece.  Am I missing it?  My column is making a scraping noise at the steering wheel, so I assume it's the upper bearing.

 

Thanks,

Tim

[Simeon]

1 hour ago, NYTransplant said:

While we're on the RealOEM illustration, I haven't been able to figure out which part is the steering column bearing.  Number 7 is a "Ring", but it certainly isn't a bearing, as it's a solid piece.  Am I missing it?  My column is making a scraping noise at the steering wheel, so I assume it's the upper bearing.

 

It’s 03 the ‘Steering spindle bearing’.

 

At $99 for a bearing you won’t forget it again. 

 

I had had a problem with mine recently. Pre-loading it and applying pressure across the steering flex joint fixed it. 

 

 

[Jbaumshelter]

4 hours ago, NYTransplant said:

While we're on the RealOEM illustration, I haven't been able to figure out which part is the steering column bearing.  Number 7 is a "Ring", but it certainly isn't a bearing, as it's a solid piece.  Am I missing it?  My column is making a scraping noise at the steering wheel, so I assume it's the upper bearing.

 

#7 is a solid piece. I has a small groove on one side that #8 goes into. You need both pieces in order for things to work correctly. My guess is your bearing is ok. Something probably was removed when swapping over to the E21 Turbo Wheel. Is the scraping noise coming from the horn ring? It gets sandwiched between the upper and lower steering column pieces. If all 3 pieces are not in good shape it gets loose and wiggles around.   You have to have all the parts or it's going to sound like a #2. That's enough potty talk. Good luck. 

[Hodgepodge]

Mike, can you tell me where/how to get this thimble?  It did not come wit the hub.  

[NYTransplant]

21 hours ago, Simeon said:

 

It’s 03 the ‘Steering spindle bearing’.

 

At $99 for a bearing you won’t forget it again. 

 

I had had a problem with mine recently. Pre-loading it and applying pressure across the steering flex joint fixed it. 

 

 

 

I'll give the preload trick a try.  Hopefully that fixes it, and I don't need the bearing.

 

Thanks for the info Simeon!

[02Les]

On 4/5/2019 at 10:33 AM, Hodgepodge said:

Mike, can you tell me where/how to get this thimble?  It did not come wit the hub.  

 

There's one for sale in the Parts for Sale section.

 

https://www.bmw2002faq.com/forums/topic/240885-horn-cancelling-ringtab/

 

[Hodgepodge]

Yes, OK.  I actually ordered one from my dealer along with the inner ring to be here Monday.  $32 for both, new.

[Hodgepodge]

The little piece came in and I installed it.   Called a shaft spring retainer.  Part is 32321118825.   The other part, a collar ring, 32311120260,  was already in place on the shaft.    Works and looks great now!  

Edited April 25, 2019 by Hodgepodge

[Wahnsinn]

Anybody know where I can get the inner ring that is referenced in the above posts?  It is part no. 32311120260, and seems to be nla everywhere I look.  

Mine is cracked and needs to be replaced.

 

Thank You

[John_in_VA]

4 hours ago, Wahnsinn said:

Anybody know where I can get the inner ring that is referenced in the above posts?  It is part no. 32311120260, and seems to be nla everywhere I look.  

Mine is cracked and needs to be replaced.

 

Try posting a Want to Buy note in the classifieds.  Good luck!

https://www.bmw2002faq.com/forums/forum/18-bmw-2002-and-neue-klasse-parts-wanted/