Old News: But an Alpina Worth Reprising

[JsnPpp]

1 hour ago, Conserv said:

Yes, Jason, that might have also been mentioned in that 2008 thread. I found a Glen Dye who was born in Hennepin County, Minnesota, the county where Wayzata is located, on December 20, 1942, but, other than a couple of possible leads in Draper, Utah, in the early 1990’s, the trail for this gentleman went cold, or... I didn’t have enough add-ons to my Ancestry.com subscription to qualify for the “good stuff”... ??
 

But, seriously, someone born in 1942 would be 25 in 1967, probably just about right for a serviceman just ending an eighteen-month tour in Germany.

 

And that car could have gone to Utah, or anywhere!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

I may have been mixed up and it was you who had tried to track it down! Had "Steve" in my head ?.

 

But yes. Finding this car would be simply amazing to witness, wouldn't it? That had to have been the same Glen Dye, too many coincidences. 

 

Jason

Edited May 5, 2020 by JsnPpp

[Conserv]

On 5/5/2020 at 4:44 PM, JsnPpp said:

 

I may have been mixed up and it was you who had tried to track it down! Had "Steve" in my head ?.

 

But yes. Finding this car would be simply amazing to witness, wouldn't it? That had to have been the same Glen Dye, too many coincidences. 

 

Jason

I believe, Jason, that Steve Peterson (@BLUNT) tried tracking down the car years ago, agreeing 100% with your statement. I read it somewhere as well.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Edited May 7, 2020 by Conserv

[mccusername]

Jason, one day someone will be tracking you down like this!?

['76mintgrün'02]

But, but, but, where are the big wide wheels with fender flares?

Where's the air dam?

 

That's not what hot rods are supposed to look like. 

 

Those  Alpina  guys  musta  beena  a  buncha  purists.

 

Tom

[otisdog]

10 hours ago, Einspritz said:

$252.00 for a CR 5-speed!

 

What a rip off!

 

 

Same goes for the $41.25 quick ratio steering!

The two would run you close to 10 grand these days...

Edited May 6, 2020 by otisdog

[Slavs]

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[markmac]

That car is alive and apparently well today, living and or being restored in the US.  The new/current owner emailed me a few weeks ago about it..... bound to not say much else than that, I am sure it he will bring forth info at some point in time.

[kiva667]

On 5/5/2020 at 7:54 AM, radiocure said:

Who cares about that stupid Alpina, give me that 0 to 60 in 16 seconds Toyota Corona!! 

Hah! My very first car was a brand-new gleaming Toyota Corona. VW beetles used to leave me in the dust at red lights. 

[Slavs]

 

 

On 3/21/2021 at 7:17 PM, markmac said:

That car is alive and apparently well today, living and or being restored in the US.  The new/current owner emailed me a few weeks ago about it..... bound to not say much else than that, I am sure it he will bring forth info at some point in time

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[jgerock]

Edit: I reread the article but couldn’t find what I wrote below. Maybe that was from another Alpina test article...
 

 

I believe Glen told the magazine tester to scramble the jet settings on the Webers, then Glen would have to adjust them back to where they were.  According to the article, Glen did so and the car ran just like before.  Perhaps that’s one of the reasons this car survived.

 

Paying for something is different than buying and understanding something.

Edited March 22, 2021 by jgerock

[JsnPpp]

That car/article was one of my first observations into the world of Alpina. Seeing the car on the road (even via photos) would be a milestone for me! Can't wait!

 

@markmac- I want to see/hear your car even more though.

 

~Jason

[markmac]

1 hour ago, JsnPpp said:

 

@markmac- I want to see/hear your car even more though.

 

~Jason

Me too, I have been busier than F_ _ k, which actually I am grateful for as I know so many are suffering - unemployed, underemployed etc.,  It may be that I might have to engage some one to do some of the things I would have normally done, to get the damn thing done.

 

Agree though on the 1600 Alpina, would like to see it out and about.?

[tisalover]

Steve, thanks so much for posting this article.?

 

I didn't know about this car, but actually I just built one. Granada red 1602 no rust, 300° cam, 45 Webers 2 L high compression motor with headers ,suspension work, and  a 390 limited slip differential. I put a vintage restall master fit Tisa style seat and early flat Momo Proto tipo wheel. I was toying with the idea of putting an early close ratio five speed in it but -------built the car partly so that my nephews could learn how to drive and understand the joy of a true drivers car. I also wanted to teach them how to double clutch and shift in something with a gearbox it wasn't quite as precious as a Porsche 911, earlier 915 gearbox. There's a lot less cringing and grimacing from the passenger seat if somebody's abusing an already notchy second gear Syncro while you're teaching them to REV match downshifts and double clutch. The car is fast enough that I just had an Ireland Wilwood front brake kit put into it. Normally you do the brakes and suspension first?. My first car was a 2000 tilux, which rusted away. So I put the motor into a 1600 shell back when I was about 17 years old. This was really the beginning of my illness.

I put a couple pictures in, I'm sorry but some of them have to be downloaded to see because of evil Apple changes in picture files.

The car is largely a time capsule other than the brake Up grade. Originally I optimistically thought that maybe good brake pads and some cooling ducts would be enough, but it really wanted more brakes.

I have a pair of Talbot 300 mirrors that I planned on putting on it, ironically, exactly like the car in the article. You can't see out of them so well, but they really give it that biometric balanced sensual mirror look that all of us that were breast-fed have programmed into us. I left the center of the front bumper out (Ferrari 250 GT style), and I'm putting some big period correct driving lamps behind the grills. I have a 235 -5 speed gearbox that I will probably put into it as soon as the nephews have all learned how to drive passably. 

The only excessive thing about it is the Alfa Romeo Sprint Veloce velocity stacks. A fellow FAQ member sold them to me. I saw a set on an alfa race car-not the disco Volante--- but pretty close-- in the Italian motor museum and thought that they were like the coolest sexiest velocity stacks I've ever seen. It's hard to get away from thousands of years of biological hardwiring?.

 

I figure what the hell, the way the future is going with electric cars and everything else we need to-- like-- celebrate excessively while we can.  

That means eating chilean Seabass , an endangered species, and enjoying other things that will probably go the way of the dodo bird or wind up in museums. Unfortunately the expression "carpe Diem" has become a cliche, but it is better to live without regrets.

There is no such thing as too much fun, unless of course -----you go to jail.

 

So many thanks again for the article, I didn't realize that somehow this car was lodged deep within my psyche.

 

Best Regards-you are the coolest of kindred spirits,

 

 

Peter

 

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[tjones02]

This car was indeed massive inspiration for my love of ‘67 1600-2s, especially those in Granada. My dad had the Car and Driver in BMW books and I probably read this article before I was 10. The awesomeness of a sleeper Q-ship that could match, even beat an equivalent ‘67 911S for speed and power, but carry four real people.

 

In 1988 my dad picked up a friend’s Granada red ‘67 1600 to build up for my sister to take to college. Six years or so later, my sister had graduated college and I was graduating high school, so she gave it to me. Here she is with the car when dad handed her the keys in ‘89. And many years later, in a fun drive with my dad.

[tisalover]

And I'd like to give a a very grateful shout out to Neil Deye and Rob  at 82 Autowerks who built the motor and just did the brakes.

And also very very many thanks to Paul Wegweiser. Paul put many of the finishing touches on the car, with the care and patience of a priest who worships at the vintage BMW school of high performance. Paul did the incredibly beautiful 45 Weber jet cover keepers, and also helped sort out many things that I was just too exhausted to do -like insert the new heater fan and an old better quality dashboard . He was kind enough to do a final fettel and tuning on the car which included things that I just wasn't patient enough to do  anymore. I knew that Paul cared enough that  things like the belt line trim would turn out perfectly. I am deeply grateful to both Paul and Neil for their expertise. Although I did much of the  work, it was the caring and support of other kindred spirits that finally got the car wrapped up.

I cannot recommend these two Bmw enthusiasts/Mechanics highly enough. Neil is also an Audi specialist, and kept my 20 v turbo Quattro s running for years.

Paul has also been kind enough to work on my 2002 Turbo and 1800 TISA. 

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