Source for fuel filler neck, P/N 16114480115

[vairter]

Does anyone know of a source for these rubber fuel necks?

 

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-fuel-filler-kneck-16114480115

 

I ordered from FCP Euro....waited 3 weeks...they flaked.

 

I ordered from Pelican Parts...waited 2 weeks...they flaked.

 

Should I try ordering one of them through a local BMW dealership?  Or are they NLA?

 

Terry

[AceAndrew]

To be clear .... no matter who you order from (with those given sources), they are just utilizing BMW NA's OEM Dealer Parts network.  You can keep going in circles with basic suppliers and end up in the same spot.

 

  If you have a decent relationship with a parts department at your local dealership, then they can tell you what the nation-wide stock is.  This is also why you order from a bmw 2002 specialist like IE or Blunt because they generally have a finger on the pulse of parts availability.

 

You can also get outside of the BMW OEM network and try a supplier like Walloth and Nesch (who show the early filler neck as not available).

 

Lastly, there aren't anymore through BMW either (at my last check at least) ... Your best bet is to place a wanted add here on the FAQ, but be mindful buying from non-active members (and never pay friends/family/venmo unless your hands are on the part).

 

Hopefully these tips will help cut down 5 weeks of nothingburgers into a quick phone call or email to the right people.

 

 

[vairter]

maybe I try Shoe-Goo on my current cracked filler neck...

 

 

 

[jp5Touring]

Ran the part number on eBay and a dozen pop up. Bad news is there all in Europe.

I have ordered parts from eBay Europe before with good results.

 

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=16114480115&_sacat=0

[calw]

If you're looking for a used part, make sure that it's still somewhat soft and pliable, unlike the one you are replacing.  Step 1 of wearing out is to harden up.  Step 2 is to crack, sometimes tiny cracks on the inside where you can't see them while the part is installed but which will, I'm told, contribute to the smell of gasoline in the trunk. 

 

Note that a hardened filler neck is also difficult to install without further deforming it, possibly leading to cracks if they weren't already there.  First soaking it in hot water may soften it a bit (haven't tried this, as I was able to find new one a few years back).

 

In the event of the part being unobtainable, there must be some sort of goo that you could use to coat the part, Maybe Phil Swift has the right product... 

 

Finally, no matter what part you use, treat it nicely when filling the tank in the future.  It's easy to hit the inside with the filler shnozzle at the gas station.

[Georges]

I got one from Pelican last week. It took about two weeks to arrive.

[Dudeland]

On 11/19/2021 at 8:41 AM, calw said:

If you're looking for a used part, make sure that it's still somewhat soft and pliable, unlike the one you are replacing.  Step 1 of wearing out is to harden up.  Step 2 is to crack, sometimes tiny cracks on the inside where you can't see them while the part is installed but which will, I'm told, contribute to the smell of gasoline in the trunk. 

 

Note that a hardened filler neck is also difficult to install without further deforming it, possibly leading to cracks if they weren't already there.  First soaking it in hot water may soften it a bit (haven't tried this, as I was able to find new one a few years back).

 

In the event of the part being unobtainable, there must be some sort of goo that you could use to coat the part, Maybe Phil Swift has the right product... 

 

Finally, no matter what part you use, treat it nicely when filling the tank in the future.  It's easy to hit the inside with the filler shnozzle at the gas station.

There is some sort of oil that the old(er) timers use to fix rubber.  Bikers use it all the time to soften old rubber. A YouTube guy mentioned it in passing.   
 

I guess what I am saying is to check some vintage biker forums.   If I remember who it is or what it was I will let you know. 
 

 

[calw]

Forgot to add for the record-  The early style rubber filler "boot" discussed here will work OK with a newer style tank that has the longer neck.  It can be installed over the longer neck fine if the rubber's still flexible.  I did it out of necessity as I had a newer tank and an older filler cap mount hole on the fender (nothing to unbolt, it's built into the fender).  After doing it, we realized that this gives an added bonus of safety when filling the tank- point the nozzle INSIDE the taller tank neck and you can't hit the rubber with it.  I was going to cut the tank neck shorter but it's not needed.

[vairter]

I tried ordering this from Lithuania:

 

16114480115: Search Result | eBay

WWW.EBAY.COM

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Buy and sell electronics, cars, fashion apparel, collectibles, sporting goods, digital cameras, baby items, coupons, and everything else on eBay, the world's online marketplace

 

 

 

 

About 3 months later, I got this reply from the the vendor, after the item never arrived:

 

New message from: globalspareparts (8,440)

Hello, Since the order is too old, i have to refund you. Because we both may end up without the item or the money. Thank you! Best Regards GLOBALSPAREPARTS Team http: stores.ebay.com/globalspareparts

 

Oh well.

 

[Ensign]

ebay (NM/NA), located in CA:

 

BMW 2002 - 2002tii (71-76) fuel Filler Neck Brand New Original BMW (NOS) 1105714

WWW.EBAY.COM

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Condition is New.

 

[bergie33]

Walloth Nesch has them.

 

Filler hose 1971 up you need 1 for 1 car

WWW.WALLOTHNESCH.COM

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Filler hose 1971 up you need 1 for 1 car

 

 

 

[calw]

1105714, that's the later, smaller version of the filler neck, for fuel tanks with the longer fill pipe that has a built in elbow.  It matches the later fender design and attaches to the inside of the fender with additional parts- a metal ring and screws IIRC.

 

The older scheme has a ring built into the fender that the older neck (16114480115) attaches to with a large hose clamp (there is a BMW part number for the correct style, but a common new hose clamp of the correct diameter works fine).

 

So, there is no interchangeability between these two necks, except that the older neck can be used with a newer fuel tank and the older fender design.  At the gas station you need to aim the nozzle so that it goes into the tank's metal fill pipe.  This isn't hard and ensures that the nozzle never will damage the rubber neck- a good thing.  (NO idea if this will work in CA with their elaborate emission-control, gas-spilling nozzle which makes it impossible to see the nozzle end as you're putting it in).

[calw]

 

 

 

Old Style 116114480115 on the left, New StyleA16111105714   on the right.  The old style is much taller than the new

 

16114480115

 

16111105714

 

 

Edited April 4, 2022 by calw
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