Rare BMW 2002 Cabriolet up for Auction in Munich/March 26th

[marklimon]

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There were only 200 BMW 2002 Cabriolets built, constructed by Karosserie Baur of Stuttgart. Now a beautiful example is going up for auction in Munich.

FYI...

 

 

[danco_]

I don't know enough about cab details but some things that stand out to me and are of concern are:

 

-US Spec steering wheel (or basic euro steering wheel?)

-1600-specific clock instead of tach? 

-replacement front fenders not bonded at top seams 

 

 

Strange

[conkitchen]

Well my old and tired grey haired arthritic hand bad knee lower back displaced disc herniated gut pre diabetic clogged arteries cataract eyes see two driver side wiper blades installed. My favorite rookie mistake.  

[02Les]

The Sothebys post notes VIN (2790097) & an odd engine number (0299A068). Assume the colour is Condorgelb, but it looks a little bright.

 

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mu22/munich/lots/c0019-1972-bmw-2002-cabriolet/1295473

 

[kiva667]

"The current seller, who owns a large BMW collection, bought it in 2015 and it's been on display since."

 

Ran when parked (?).

[Henning]

Some kind of wrong:

Below the fuse box there's a black square. Hiding a 12-fuse cutout? Body replaced?

Afaik, all 2002 convertibles are early 71s. So these shouldn't have the inka diagnostic plug below the box.

The black plastic triangle cover in the nose panel hides a raised battery in squaries. Wrong feature in a roundie.

The relays are sitting way too low. What's wrong with the harness?

Boring valve cover.

Steering column stalks with big knobs. There should be tiny knobs.

Trapezoids? Did these appear before the first upgrades in 4/71? I'm not quite sure.

Sorry for nitpicking. Just as info for eventual bidders from this forum.

 

henn

[John_in_VA]

Period-correct pot seed burns on transmission tunnel carpet!?

[Son of Marty]

And lastly, they left the hood supports behind the grill body colored.

[02Les]

11 hours ago, Henning said:

Some kind of wrong:

Below the fuse box there's a black square. Hiding a 12-fuse cutout? Body replaced?

Afaik, all 2002 convertibles are early 71s. So these shouldn't have the inka diagnostic plug below the box.

The black plastic triangle cover in the nose panel hides a raised battery in squaries. Wrong feature in a roundie.

The relays are sitting way too low. What's wrong with the harness?

Boring valve cover.

Steering column stalks with big knobs. There should be tiny knobs.

Trapezoids? Did these appear before the first upgrades in 4/71? I'm not quite sure.

Sorry for nitpicking. Just as info for eventual bidders from this forum.

 

henn

 

I thought all the '71 Cabrios had 12 fuses, so, this one having 6 is real weird.

[adawil2002]

Looks like one of the  '68-'69 1600 Cabriolets from the lower chrome dash trim which may have been a leftover from that run yet made into a 2002. 

[Conserv]

On 11/24/2022 at 6:05 PM, 02Les said:

… an odd engine number (0299A068)...

 

It’s a factory replacement (remanufactured) engine. More commonly stamped as “0299  A  06 8”, which translates to:

 

1. Serial number 0299 (the 299th engine rebuilt that month)

2. A = Replacement engine (as opposed to new)

3. 06 = June

4. 8 = 1988, unless it’s 1978 or 1998 (the casting dates on the block and head may further narrow those possibilities; I’m guessing BMW had no idea they’d be remanufacturing ‘02 engines decades when they decided to go with a single-digit year signifier… 😉)

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

[Conserv]

One might guess that the April 1971 cutoff (from pre-Model 71 to Modell 71) would apply to the full cabriolets produced during this period.

The following chart, which has proven to be accurate and very informative, shows — highlighted in light yellow — 200 full cabriolets (Typ 114C), VIN’s 2790001 through 2790200, produced from January through June 1971. The chart characterizes them as pre-Modell 71. Hmmm… 

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

[02Les]

26 minutes ago, Conserv said:

Doesn’t the April 1971 cut-off (pre-Modell 71 replaced by Modell 71) apply equally to sedans and cabriolets? 
 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

Steve, I looked at a couple of pics before making that statement. I have now looked more carefuly, and the result is....

 

2790031 = 12f   orig?

2790084 = 12f   orig?

2790097 = 6f    over 12v hole (the car in question)   resto'd

2790159 = 6f     orig?

2790170 = 12f   resto'd

2790197 = 6f    resto'd

 

Some of these cars have obviously been 'restored' which may account for a fuse box swap. Wish I had more Cabrio pics now.

Edited November 26, 2022 by 02Les

[02Les]

38 minutes ago, Conserv said:

It’s a factory replacement (remanufactured) engine. More commonly stamped as “0299  A  06 8”, which translates to:

 

1. Serial number 0299 (the 299th engine rebuilt that month)

2. A = Replacement engine (as opposed to new)

3. 06 = June

4. 8 = 1988, unless it’s 1978 or 1998 (the casting dates on the block and head may further narrow those possibilities; I’m guessing BMW had no idea they’d be remanufacturing ‘02 engines decades when they decided to go with a single-digit year signifier… 😉)

 

Regards,

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

Ah, so.

[Conserv]

7 hours ago, 02Les said:

 

Steve, I looked at a couple of pics before making that statement. I have now looked more carefuly, and the result is....

 

2790031 = 12v   orig?

2790084 = 12v   orig?

2790097 = 6v    over 12v hole (the car in question)   resto'd

2790159 = 6v     orig?

2790170 = 12v   resto'd

2790197 = 6v    resto'd

 

Some of these cars have obviously been 'restored' which may account for a fuse box swap. Wish I had more Cabrio pics now.

I don’t know Les, the manufacturing date on this Condergelb car is March 31, 1971. If you bought a 2002 sedan built on March 31, 1971, it would likely have a 6-fuse fuseholder. And if that 2002 sedan was manufactured March 15, 1971, it would certainly have a 6-fuse fuseholder. But a 2002 sedan manufactured April 15, 1971, one month later, would equally certainly have a 12-fuse fuseholder.

 

But I know nothing about the process by which the full cabriolets were built — I know they weren’t completed on the factory assembly line. When were the bodies, or partial bodies assembled? When were they completed? Aren’t the Karmann-bodied coupes, for instance, less respectful of VIN number sequence, because, like the cabriolets, they weren’t built on the assembly line? They were built “coach-builder style”, a bunch of bodies sitting around the shop and being worked on by hand. In addition, many of these cabriolets, because of their market values, have been heavily restored, often over-restored. Hen’s comment about re-bodying or panel replacements should be taken seriously with respect to this example.

 

I wouldn’t be shocked if there were both 6-fuse and 12-fuse original versions of the 2002 cabriolet, based solely on their manufacturing dates. But then, I also have to ask, “If there are pre-Modell 71 and Modell 71 versions of the 2002 cabriolets, which of the Modell 71 upgrades did the Modell 71 versions adopt: 12-fuse fuseholders, knee mouldings, long-tail rear bumpers, bumper rub strips, black, not silver-dollar instrument faces, long consoles?” I haven’t a clue!

 

Best regards,

 

Steve