A Case for E10

[TobyB]

I wrote a book once, too.

 

I'm sure there were some things in it that weren't correct.

 

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primitive spellcheker

[conkitchen]

Just now, TobyB said:

I wrote a book once, too.

 

primitive spellcheker

me two 

[Mark92131]

3 minutes ago, ray_ said:

your inferior squaretail car

 

You mean your E10/73 😉

 

Mark92131

[02Les]

37 minutes ago, ray_ said:

And FURTHER! Even if you are using the designation to refer to your inferior squaretail car, don't do it, because the next clown who comes along and sees your post will automatically assume his proper roundie is an E10 and call it as such, displaying his ignorance for all to see.

 

 

That just about sums up what has happened, especially over the past few years.

[Mark92131]

2 hours ago, 02Les said:

Her “conclusion” seems based on rememberances and no authentic BMW documented proof.

 

She isn't very concise about the source of this information.  She does elude to the research coming from archived board meeting notes which would make some sense.  When the board approved the "2.0-Liter Type 114" in 1967, I could imagine that during one of the later board meetings, someone started using the development code "E10" to describe the "2.0-Liter Type 114" for these internal discussions and everyone understood that this was a Type 114 with a 2-liter motor.  So internally, E10 was being used, but this never trickled down to official documentation.  I would love to see a page from the archived board meeting notes reference "E10" when describing the 2-liter Type 114 project.

 

3 hours ago, 02Les said:

 

BMW began attaching (what I call) E Code stickers to the RHD & LHD Euro cars in late 1972.

 

Does anyone know what these Euro "E Code stickers" are referencing?  What are the numbers below the E1 and E2?  It seems odd that E1 and E2 appear on this sticker, yet according to Jackie, these two E Codes were never used.

 

Mark92131

[Lorin]

8 minutes ago, Mark92131 said:

 

  When the board approved the "2.0-Liter Type 114" in 1967, I could imagine that during one of the later board meetings, someone started using the development code "E10" to describe the "2.0-Liter Type 114" for these internal discussions and everyone understood that this was a Type 114 with a 2-liter motor. 

 

Mark92131

Imagination truly is the source of all this E10 nonsense. 

[Mark92131]

1 minute ago, Lorin said:

Imagination truly is the source of all this E10 nonsense. 

 

Which is why...

 

I would love to see a page from the archived board meeting notes reference "E10" when describing the 2-liter Type 114 project.

 

Mark92131

[HBChris]

45 minutes ago, Mark92131 said:

 

She isn't very concise about the source of this information.  She does elude to the research coming from archived board meeting notes which would make some sense.  When the board approved the "2.0-Liter Type 114" in 1967, I could imagine that during one of the later board meetings, someone started using the development code "E10" to describe the "2.0-Liter Type 114" for these internal discussions and everyone understood that this was a Type 114 with a 2-liter motor.  So internally, E10 was being used, but this never trickled down to official documentation.  I would love to see a page from the archived board meeting notes reference "E10" when describing the 2-liter Type 114 project.

 

 

Does anyone know what these Euro "E Code stickers" are referencing?  What are the numbers below the E1 and E2?  It seems odd that E1 and E2 appear on this sticker, yet according to Jackie, these two E Codes were never used.

 

Mark92131

Those are European Economic Community country codes not BMW e-codes.  As I recall E1 is Germany, E2 might be France.  Don’t beat me up but I subscribe to Jackie’s findings, she is an incredibly thorough researcher.

Edited December 29, 2022 by HBChris

[Mike Self]

25 minutes ago, HBChris said:

Don’t beat me up but I subscribe to Jackie’s findings, she is an incredibly thorough researcher.

+1.  

[tzei]

Here are countries approval codes:

ECE R10 Countries • Automotive EMC • Certification • Testups

WWW.TESTUPS.COM

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UN ECE publishes the list of countries for Regulation 10. There are 57 countries.Some of them are Ireland, Poland and Hungary. See whole list.

Just in case

[thehackmechanic]

Just don't call it a f**king "Beamer" and I'm good.

[Son of Marty]

Obviously a E10 is a type 114 built in Serbia😎, my research has found the first time a e code was used by BMW is the Isseta e type 1/2.

[PhilC]

I think the best E type is a Jaguar 😁

[jgerock]

3 hours ago, conkitchen said:

 

 

Rumor has it Huey once owned a 2002.  A seller of a 74tii in CA told me this when I was inquiring about buying his car (not Huey’s😉).   

[ray_]

4 hours ago, HBChris said:

Those are European Economic Community country codes not BMW e-codes.  As I recall E1 is Germany, E2 might be France.  Don’t beat me up but I subscribe to Jackie’s findings, she is an incredibly thorough researcher.

Correct or not, anyone (correctly or not) referring to their 2002 series as an E10 on the internet is ignorantly promoting further stupidity.

 

Thank you, and get off my lawn as I yell at this cloud.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by ray_