2002 Base Engine Vs 2002 Tii Engine

[dlacey]

Essential is too strong... Any '02 block can be modified to suit injection. I was talking only about originalitism and that the tii block can be used without modification to build a turbo tribute. I am not talking about pistons, the tii piston and compression ratio make it a poor choice for boosting.

But at another level the carb block will EFI fine and none of the tii paraphernalia is required...the lower compression of the orig carb model pistons might make a swap of manifolding enough to make a good turbo motor.

37 minutes ago, Conserv said:

why he believes a tii block is essential.

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by dlacey

[Conserv]

10 minutes ago, dlacey said:

Essential is too strong... Any '02 block can be modified to suit injection. I was talking only about originalitism and that the tii block can be used without modification to build a turbo tribute. I am not talking about pistons, the tii piston and compression ratio make ita poor choice for boosting.

But at another level the carb block will EFI fine and none of the tii paraphernalia is required...the lower compression of the orig carb model pistons might make a swap of manifolding enough to make a good turbo motor.

 

+1

 

We’re on the same page, Dave! I just wanted to make certain there wasn’t some additional features to a turbo engine that made a tii block “extra special”.

 

Given the rarity and cost, however, of original turbo units, exhaust manifolds, and other special features of the factory turbo, a picture-perfect clone would be extraordinarily expensive to build — a few forum members have experienced that pain. And considerably less expensive components using modern technology can produce substantially more power, and less lag, than original components.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

[dvella98]

1 minute ago, Conserv said:

+1

 

We’re on the same page, Dave! I just wanted to make certain there wasn’t some additional features to a turbo engine that made a tii block “extra special”.

 

Given the rarity and cost, however, of original turbo units, exhaust manifolds, and other special features of the factory turbo, a picture-perfect clone would be extraordinarily expensive to build — a few forum members have felt that pain. And considerably less expensive components using modern technology can produce substantially more power, and less lag, than original components.

 

Best regards,

 

Steve

 

Good point, I will not be chasing originality to that extreme. My intentions are to get a restomod tribute. The idea is that it looks the par, so no engine swaps etc. However I will most likely chase new technology for instance when it comes to the turbo

[jimk]

1 hour ago, dlacey said:

the tii piston and compression ratio make it a poor choice for boosting.

If you are sticking with the old technology limitations of the distributor for timing.

[dvella98]

6 minutes ago, jimk said:

If you are sticking with the old technology limitations of the distributor for timing.

On the contrary I intend to use mixrosquirt to control everything. 

[jimk]

17 minutes ago, dvella98 said:

On the contrary I intend to use mixrosquirt to control everything. 

And if that doesn't do auto tuning, it's a challenge.

[bergie33]

For 25k Euro, I hope it is a very nice, well sorted example and you are just looking to upgrade the engine. If you are buying a project that still needs a bit of body and paint work, 25k is way too much. 

[dvella98]

In the photos it looks quite nice. Seller stated that both are in nice condition, no rust, paint is good but not perfect, about a quality of 8,5 to 9 on the paint job. He was initially asking for 30k but so far negotiated down to around 26k

[Mark92131]

8 hours ago, Conserv said:

I just wanted to make certain there wasn’t some additional features to a turbo engine that made a tii block “extra special”.

 

By "extra special", do you mean something like this... 😉

 

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There's an old legend about BMW Formula 1 engineers urinating on cylinder blocks to help "season" the iron casting before race prepping. The survived 1,500 horsepower, so did the trick work? Check out the story!

 

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