What denotes a ti vs a 2002

[TTyMiller]

My uderstanding is that a ti merely had the duel vs the single carb, Thus if you have a; 32/36 what is the diff. Now I dont think a 32/36 is going to give you 120hp, so I'm confudsed on this issue.

Thanks

[John_in_VA]

(nt)

[MichaelP]

Dual Solex PHH side drafts with stock air box.

[TTyMiller]

So the ti rolled with dual side drafts...that explains it!

[TTyMiller]

So the ti rolled with dual side drafts...that explains it!

[c.d.iesel]

2002 Ti also differed from the 'plain' 2002

in the following:

2002 Ti

much stiffer valve springs 154lb

2002 has 64 lb.

9.5:1 compression

120 (bhp-DIN)

123 (lb.ft) torque

Ti distributor 0 231 129 033 2-3degrees more total advance

than Tii @ 3,500 rpm

Ref. - BMW Repair manual 1602, 1802, 2002

Volume 1, Specifications 11-0/3 ...11-0/14 03/1973 ed.

16,448 2002 Ti produced,

twin SOLEX 40PHH carbs,

120 HP @ 5500 RPM,

115 MPH top 2185 lbs

5x13" rims, 165HR13" tyres

and BMW SOLEX PHH test stand:

[jerry]

details for the list:

larger front spindles and brake calipers as used for later tii variant

boxed rear trailing arms

dash clock with chrome trim ring and different front face than what is on the tii clock.

brake booster, as found on tii variant.

early 3-piece dash with chrome trim as found on the 67 model year cars

'sport' steering wheel

no 'snorkel'

6-fuse cars only

4-bladed radiator fan

btw, that is a great photo of a clean ti engine bay. i'll add a copy to my reference file. i did not know about the stiffer valve springs.

[No2002tii]

The - ti- is what I understand not released in the US.

It was the predecessor to the -tii-.

Here in Europe there are several -ti- cars.

It was produced until 1971, and did not meet

the emision standards of the US.

[tjones02]

2002ti had 121ti head w/ same large valves as tii and e12 head.

Also 9.3:1 compression not 9.5:1. The E12 headed tii's used the 9.5:1 piano top pistons.

All 02's in stock form (including Turbo) used the same valve springs. Only the 1800Ti/SA used the stiffer factory valve springs. 02's only used these springs when equipped with the 300 and 324 degree camshafts.

Tom Jones

My Parents Rich and Iva Jones BMWs

'65 1800TI/SA #995183

'70 2800 sed, plans for installing a 3.5l motronic w/L-jet intake are under way

'72 2002tii #2760007 COLORADO, ORIGINAL OWNERS!! In the middle of a minor restoration CA lic plate "2002 TII"

'87 535is 5spd, mom's daily

My cousin Matt's BMWs

'74 2002tii w/'73 bumpers

'80 528i 5spd 3.5l w/ L-jet

Other BMW's I work on are in the collection of Pat and Clint deWitt...

'65 1800TI/SA #995184 restored vintage racer...

'70 1600 Full Cab, in middle of minor restoration

'72 2002tii #2760001 INKA Yes, the first "production" USA TII! This car has been through a botched restoration that I am now in control of and when Pat is ready we will see that it is brought back to proper restored condition.

My BMWs...

_________________

Tom Jones

Vacaville CA

BMWCCA 49246

Tech @ Autostatt BMW in Sacramento

66 1600-2 proj

67 1600-2 pts car

67 1600-2 Granada my beater sleeper, 9.3 comp 121ti big valve head......

68 1600-2 proj

67 1800A proj

76 2002 proj F/S soon

86 528e 5sp my daily 333k Schwartz/beige

86 528e auto Schwartz/beige, Rosee's new car

86 325eA now Sold to Wife Rosee's Parents

[Benz02]

I beleive the Ti also had a slightly wider front track...53" I think--same as the Tii if I'm not mistaken.

[jerry]

I beleive the Ti also had a slightly wider front track...53" I think--same as the Tii if I'm not mistaken.

can you clarify what you mean regarding the front track? i'm not sure what you are referring to. what are the applicable parts?

[jp02ti]

lower battery tray

larger sways front and rear

Euro trim:

italian turn signals

no side markers

small bumpers

plate lights in the read bumper

chrome 3-piece dash with clock

dual solex side draughts

wider rims (5.5 I think.. as opposed to 5 on a stock 02?)

optional cr-5sp

optional sunroof

limited slip

cloth seat inserts, front and rear

Isolated VINs

thats what I remember off the top of my head...

Jon

'69ti - almost stock(ish...)

'70 with dual webers

[tjones02]

BUT if you measure from brake disk to brake disk across the front of the car ALL '02s have the same track. When you see front and rear track as listed in car magazines that is with the wheels on on the ground! So, when you put wider tires/wheels on, you are increasing the track! DOH!

[Edwin]

Euro trim:

italian turn signals

...

wider rims (5.5 I think.. as opposed to 5 on a stock 02?)

The italian turn signals were only in ... Italy and not for the rest of Europe.

The standards 02's had 4.5J rims and the ti/tii had the 5J rims and both had standard 165SR13 tires.

The offset (ET) for the 5J's was so much less that they came out and the track grew wider.

[Benz02]

I think that makes sense. I was referrring to the figures listed in the book "The BMW 2002"...in the back there are some figures that differ slightly. '68-'71 listed as 52.4". '71-'75 as 53". US saloons '74-76 at 52.8"

Ti is listed as 53" and the Turbo is listed as 53.6". It does not specify the points of measurement, only says front track. All rear track measurements appear to be identical to the fronts.