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Thanks Bob & CD, I'll tell my dear Wife to get one. Hope I get 12 years out of a new one too.

Somebody must have been. The pic is of a battery I bought in the UK (from BMW?) a couple of years before I shipped the Touring to the US in 2000. It's still going! Maybe not the strongest, so I relegated it to one of my project cars, but it holds a charge to start the car ok after standing a week or so. Any road up; anyone know if this battery (or real close Bosch equivalent) is available in the US?

Although not orig, a grey one would look good. I put one of Esty's grey upmteen piece carpet set in my blue car; sure looks better than the original blue one.

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Thanks John. I did realise after a couple of reply posts, but could't resist.

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As Bluedevils said, it started with the square taillight cars. B-pillar colour matched the seats, panels etc. The earlier cars had a black section along the top of the door & rear side panels, so a black B-pillar matched well.

Hmmm! Seems nobody thought to mention what BMW recommended way back when. Here's a pic of the sticker in my Touring. Probably the same for all models.

Rob, if it's for a Touring try this Seller. Somewhat pricy! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=160527798644 He may have carpet for other '02 models?

If the carpet is Tan, then (IMO) the panels, seats, rear parcel shelf, B-pillar would also have been Tan. The parcel shelf & B-pillar colour (if original) dictates the panels and seat colour. The Tan carpet is the give-away though. Black & Blue were also available, but, as noted above, the rear parcel shelf and B-pillars would have been the same colour, and definately not a Tan carpet.

Exacly! It IS that one. What a nightmare for whoever bought it. A shiny crust of filler with some motorsport colours painted on it. And let us not forget the added pig cheeks. This was deliberate. Malpractice. Who's got it now? Same guy or what? I can order a beer in most languages, but reading Norwegian is not one of my stronger points. Here's a couple of pics of mine when it looked decent.

Looks like it might be. Also funny is this picture of the touring, where it has USA turn signals (which us Americans hate and take off ASAP): Pretty sure that Touring is the one featured many years ago (still there now) in the "Gallery" on http://www.bimmers.com/02/ It started out as 1600 Touring (3304264). The bubble front indicators are a different part # from the US ones and were, I believe, part of the Touring "sport paket". It appeared on Ebay in Jan '08 at a Buy it Now of $48k.

Hi Rob, Not much info I'm afraid, but would expect the 1600 Touring to have the same drivetrain as the saloon. Diff, I believe, would be 4:11:1. Da Beater is still going strong. Hopefully it will be "on show" again at Mid-America event in a couple of months. Cheers, Les

Here's a beast. http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/index.php/febuary-2009

Thanks Rob, I stand corrected. I didn't think about the NK's, just the 02's. I have read that BMW introduced the 02 Tii in the Touring first to emphasize the "Sport" aspect of the car over the utilitarian aspect. According to info I have gathered (hope it's true): Touring 2000tii production started Jan '71 alongwith the famous alloy wheels and other goodies. The Euro 2002tii sedan started May '71 and the US 2002tii in Aug '71 The 1600 & 2000 Touring carb'd version started May '71. The 1802 Touring started in Oct '71.

Geez, you remembered. I have to think real long to remember Yvonne's. I'm going into Ranchi (the nearest big city) this coming weekend to partake of sufficient amber nectars (Kingfisher Strong) to make me forget about this place for a short while. Les

From an Indian perspective. THE BRITISH LEGACY IN INDIA G. Somasesh Most of our living grannies and grandpas still recall with nostalgic feelings the golden age when the British ruled our country, when commodities were available at cheap prices, when red tapism was not so rampant, and when administration ran on smooth lines under the firm supervision of the British officials. To youngsters all this may seem exaggerated with a mythical aura of its own. But if we view at the British occupation of India as a historical event without any prejudices, we may draw some conclusions which show in clear light the legacy of the British left in India even after their departure from here, which in fact served as a foundation for the subsequent building of our nation. No doubt, the British rule suppressed some of our valuable traits and spirit of originality, which if left to themselves, would have led our nation grow in another way - perhaps in a better way too. But who can question the happenings of history? In this essay, I shall make a humble attempt to make a brief survey of the British legacy bequeathed to India. The first notable change during the British rule is the introduction of machines and technology. No doubt the British might have done this to facilitate their way of leading a comfortable life. The first road was laid out between Bombay and Poona in 1830. In 1853 the construction of railway tracks began. The means of quick transport and communication gave the British a firm control over the vast empire they occupied. It also gave boost to their trade and commerce. The first newspaper “Bengal Gazette” in English was published in Calcutta by James Hicky in 1780. The first newspaper in Hindi was Banaras Akbhar” published in 1845. The newspapers only reproduced the matter collected from British papers and journals. They were meant mostly for the English people and the few educated Indians. The newspapers brought into vogue a simple direct and clear style. The first newspaper in vernacular was “Samachar Darpan” in Bengali by a missionary (Joshua Marshman) from Serampur. Men of noble ideals like Sir Arthur cotton left their imprint of service on the Indian soil. The dam over the Krishna was started by Cotton in 1853. In agricultural field, the feudalistic Zamindari system was replaced by the Ryotwari system, thereby removing the exorbitant tax burden from the shoulders of the peasants who were exploited by middle men and landlords. To speak on the other side, some officers left the fate of farmers to Zamindars content themselves with the revenue they received from the landlords. In the field of education, a very significant change came for better or for worse. The value of western education was recognised by Indians serving under British officers. The Government also needed trained educated Indians to do clerical jobs. The role of missionaries in educating people to understand Christianity is considerable. In spite of some opposition from traditionalists, the introduction of English succeeded with Maculay’s bold venture in 1853. The introduction of western type of education was also connected with the selfish motive of westernising the whole Indian race. Of course, a few people recognised the civilizing quality of education to reform the Indians steeped in superstitions. Lord curzon at Simla conference held in 1901, stressed the need for technical and vocational education. But most of the people were after liberal type of education aspiring to become officers. Curzon also transformed the role of universities as mere examining centres into places teaching subjects. Hindu reformers like Pandita Rama Bal (1858-1922) and Dr. Karve set up Schools for educating widows and orphans. The major achievement is seen in bringing about social reforms which were gradually introduced by the British since they were afraid of interfering too much with Indian customs and tradition. The Sipoy Mutiny in 1857 threw cold water over their zeal and strained the relations between the British and the Indians. The abolition of Suttee, Thuggery, child marriages, infanticide, child-labour and polygamy are some of the radical reforms introduced by the British Govt. The keen interest shown by Bentick in reforms produced a strong reaction from traditionalistic aristocrats. The rapid spread of British influence produced in response a revival and rejuvenation from the Indian side. Great saints and scholars reinterpreted and brought to light the immense greatness of the Hindu culture. Ramakrishna Paramhamsa, Swami Vivekananda, Dayanand Saraswathi, Aurobindo and Ranade are some of such people. Some leaders like Ram Mohan Roy and Keshub Chandra Sen tried to synthasise the good qualities of both the east and the west in their teach­ings. Great European scholars like Jones, Max Mueller, Edwin Arnold, delved deep into Hindu scriptures and brought to surface the inherent worth of the Indian culture and art. In the field of architecture and painting, the Britishers first patron­ised the Indian artists, attracted by the exotic landscape festivals and customs. The Indian artists also added a few western touches to their style to please the foreigners. Rabindranath Tagore, Ravi Varma, Jamini Roy and Amrita Shergil are some of the great artists that the British India produced. Painting on mica sheets and carving on ivory became popular during this era. The Britishers patronised landscape painting as they used to send picture post cards to their relatives. Lord Canning took keen interest in photography. The Western type of education acquainted the Indians with liberal ideas, rational thinking and the spirit of nationalism. At first, Muslims remained aloof but later realised the benefits of the English Education. The English Education also opened to Indians the wonders of science and industrialization. The arrogant and highbrow attitude of the Britishers, the missionary zeal of Christians and the quick pace of social reforms aroused fears in some Indians that the British would completely uproot their native culture. Added to this, the activities of the extremists with terrible retaliations from the British side prepared the ground for freedom struggle. The religious revival, and the freedom movements in other countries added fuel to this. The British Government also realised the need for granting dominion status to India. The world wars and economic depression made them too busy to govern a vast empire like India. But the delayed procedures added redoubled fury and strength to freedom movement in India. The various acts giving limited freedom to Indian councilors paved the way to eventual emergence of parliamentary democracy in India. The 1935 Act formed a basis for the concept of the rule by majority. The introduction of separate electorates gave a ring of protection to minorities especially Muslims. The extremist elements aroused their religious fervour and their fears about the Hindu majority, which would rule them. During the Moghul rule there was no scope for such fears as the rulers themselves were Muslims. Lastly a brief survey about the interaction between the literacy fields of the European and the Indian spheres. The cultural renaissance is an offshoot of the British rule. May be, it is a defensive resposnse to the so-called superior nation of the British race more than the British, the Germans showed more interest in exploring the ancient vedic lore and philosophy. In return, the Indians enriched their literature by borrowing modern literary forms like the novel, the essay, the free verse, the short story, the sonnet ad the autobiography. The British writers belonging to the genre “The Anglo-Indian Writers” contributed their own to portray the Indian scenery and life mixed with irony, humour and ridicule. The influence of Indian literature and philosophy are noticeable on Western transcendentalists, W.B.Yeats, Goethe, Schiller and E.T.A. Hofman. The long duration of British rule also brought about the mutual borrowing of words. A number of translations of Hindu classics into European languages took place. Lord Curzon and Alexander Cunningham and others contributed their mite in preserving the ancient Indian architecture, coins and sculptures. Thus, to sum up, the British rule in India ushered in a new era laying the foundation for the present Indian to stand as an individual entity. Of course, besides these benefits Indians had to bear the adverse effects of foreign rule for a long period.

Subject: Technology After having dug to a depth of 10 feet last year, Australian scientists found traces of copper wire dating back 200 years and came to the conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more than 150 years ago. Not to be outdone by the Aussies, in the weeks that followed, an American archaeologist dug to a depth of 20 feet and, shortly after, a story was published in the New York Times: "American archaeologists, finding traces of 250-year-old copper wire, have concluded that their ancestors already had an advanced high-tech communications network 50 years earlier than the Australians". One week later, the Council in Essex , reported the following: "After digging as deep as 30 feet in Colchester, Jack Lucknow, a self-taught archaeologist, reported that he found absolutely f *ck all. Jack has therefore concluded that 250 years ago, Britain had already gone wireless." Just makes me bloody proud to be British.

Here you go. http://www.bmw2002faq.com/component/option,com_forum/Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,352999/

Exactly. Having worked in China on/off for the past 20 yrs or more, I have seen a huge change. As Ray says, it is a matter of QC supervision, which is true for any Country. I'm currently in India and we have equip't that has been manufactured in India, China, Italy and the US. Thus far we have had the least trouble with the Chinese manufacture. QED. Andrey, if you look enough you'll see a lot of good things come out of CHINA, to discount them that way just shows ignorance. As long as there is sufficient oversight on the item being produced there then there is not much problem. What does get to be a problem is when a PERSON (not a country) decides he wants to try and make as much money as possible and cuts corners in places that he shouldn't. Uses usually thinner gauge steel (the steel itself might be high quality, just very little of it.) and sells on ebay with little chance of reprocutions when things go wrong.

Mike, That's more than likely. I tried to find a matching headlight to fit to my orig Euro unscathed bucket, only then did I learn that there are several varieties (bucket & reflector). So I quickly put in some US buckets with Ebay lights. Actually the left (pass side) one is also cocked, so, grace goes with symmetry!

What? I'd kill for an ice cream right now where I am. If I found one it would be curried! Real beer too.....oh, I digress.

Les - you continue to amaze me with your BMW archives. I haven't looked up any of the VIN's in the 2002 registry. There was a '74tii there that was only a shell but it still had the Behr A/C fan and radiator in the nose. This was just a hobby, but it's turning into a monster. If the same person who had these 6~7 years ago still has them.....I know who he is, AND, where he is. Your secret is safe with me Jim.

Looks like you have the same cocked driver headlight that I have, Esty. Had to buy after the "hit & run", and I've fiddled and farted with the damn thing and just cannot get it to sit level. I rarely drive at night, so no big thing, and inspection (Texas) doesn't care where it's pointed as long as it lights up!